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<blockquote data-quote="yennico" data-source="post: 914750" data-attributes="member: 11978"><p>Hi isoChron</p><p></p><p>Then the player of the cleric is an egoistic, munchkin player.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>Egoistic, because he cast spells nearly on himself (except endurance) </p><p>munchkin: how needs buff spells for the whole day <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>At level 15 your fighter should have some magic items like amulet of health or belt of giant strength, so there is need for bull´s strength and endurance (because their bonus does not stack). </p><p></p><p></p><p>Perhaps he fears that his beloved companions will not survive the fight <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>If only he is invincible, the other party members are not invincible and got killed during the fight, he has to face the enemies alone.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>At high level displell magic and greater dispelling are very powerful and feared spells, because they can determine if you have to fight a by spells buffed enemy or a "normal" enemy. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Why are they immune against fire and acid ? Protected by spells ?</p><p>For protection from sonic, electricity and cold they need at least (without any magic item) 6 level 4 spells. They can be dispelled.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I did not say he is prohibited to use his spells. It is not fair to be buffed before the fight started. If he wants to buff himself by spells he had to cast them in the fight. So in the first round he cast one magic vestment.... in the second round the second magic vestment.</p><p></p><p>Flame strike is a powerful spell but it can only be used if no friend stands near the target.</p><p></p><p>I agree a high level prepared!! spellcaster is more powerful then a high level fighter.</p><p></p><p>But each class also has his weaknesses. For the cleric it is his reflex save and his improved fighting and defending abilities depending on magic which can be dispelled. </p><p></p><p>Just my 2 cents</p><p>yennico</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="yennico, post: 914750, member: 11978"] Hi isoChron Then the player of the cleric is an egoistic, munchkin player.:) Egoistic, because he cast spells nearly on himself (except endurance) munchkin: how needs buff spells for the whole day :) At level 15 your fighter should have some magic items like amulet of health or belt of giant strength, so there is need for bull´s strength and endurance (because their bonus does not stack). Perhaps he fears that his beloved companions will not survive the fight :) If only he is invincible, the other party members are not invincible and got killed during the fight, he has to face the enemies alone. At high level displell magic and greater dispelling are very powerful and feared spells, because they can determine if you have to fight a by spells buffed enemy or a "normal" enemy. Why are they immune against fire and acid ? Protected by spells ? For protection from sonic, electricity and cold they need at least (without any magic item) 6 level 4 spells. They can be dispelled. I did not say he is prohibited to use his spells. It is not fair to be buffed before the fight started. If he wants to buff himself by spells he had to cast them in the fight. So in the first round he cast one magic vestment.... in the second round the second magic vestment. Flame strike is a powerful spell but it can only be used if no friend stands near the target. I agree a high level prepared!! spellcaster is more powerful then a high level fighter. But each class also has his weaknesses. For the cleric it is his reflex save and his improved fighting and defending abilities depending on magic which can be dispelled. Just my 2 cents yennico [/QUOTE]
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