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<blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 7005059" data-attributes="member: 6677017"><p>Well here is the root of our contention. I'm not sure what meaningful discussion can happen if we disagree about the reality of objective authenticity.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well personally I define D&D authenticity as official IP produced through official channels, preferably that with a strong tradition. Some homebrewing (settings/adventures) is almost a mandatory part of that authenticity, while other parts of it are optional, and at the extremes it reaches the part I was originally addressing, where it loses touch with the official game and becomes your own game "inspired by" D&D IP, which doesn't seem any more authentic than a bad book to movie adaptation to me.</p><p></p><p>I mean at some point you've just got to admit that a position based on taste and values can still have an objective element (we don't need to have an academic initiative to determine that Taco Bell's tacos are less authentic than...just about anything else), and good-naturedly laugh at those who care or don't care about those elements. There are plenty of things I do inauthentically, and think others are silly for others to care about, and then there are those for which authenticity is important to me. What determines which are which? Probably whichever version of the particular thing I like the most. Since I like authentic IP-based D&D, I'm going to seek to help it flourish. Since I like the way American pizza has developed, I'd think it's silly for people to champion "New York style pizza only!"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sword of Spirit, post: 7005059, member: 6677017"] Well here is the root of our contention. I'm not sure what meaningful discussion can happen if we disagree about the reality of objective authenticity. Well personally I define D&D authenticity as official IP produced through official channels, preferably that with a strong tradition. Some homebrewing (settings/adventures) is almost a mandatory part of that authenticity, while other parts of it are optional, and at the extremes it reaches the part I was originally addressing, where it loses touch with the official game and becomes your own game "inspired by" D&D IP, which doesn't seem any more authentic than a bad book to movie adaptation to me. I mean at some point you've just got to admit that a position based on taste and values can still have an objective element (we don't need to have an academic initiative to determine that Taco Bell's tacos are less authentic than...just about anything else), and good-naturedly laugh at those who care or don't care about those elements. There are plenty of things I do inauthentically, and think others are silly for others to care about, and then there are those for which authenticity is important to me. What determines which are which? Probably whichever version of the particular thing I like the most. Since I like authentic IP-based D&D, I'm going to seek to help it flourish. Since I like the way American pizza has developed, I'd think it's silly for people to champion "New York style pizza only!" [/QUOTE]
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