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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 5971296" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Given that they didn't know about gravity yet, understanding the shape of the planet and understanding orbits were separate things.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Go look at the dates - 150 years from Copernicus to something like wider acceptance. It was not as clean as you make it sound. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Dude, all of human civilization is a pittance in "the scope of time". While that sounds poetic, I don't see how it is relevant. You talked about it being "instinctual" - that means acceptance should have been automatic, like a reflex. It wasn't. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, a century and a half of history argues against you - I'm sorry, but the pretty picture was not as convincing to astronomers at the time as you seem to make it out. His peers generally ignored Copernicus. It wasn't until Newton's Laws (which could be applied to ordinary objects, and also to heavenly bodies) came along that the model really got wider acceptance. And Galileo died a year (almost to the day) before Newton was born.</p><p></p><p>And it isn't/wasn't just a religious issue - humans, in general, *resist* having their notions of the universe changed. There is no instinct to accept elegance, no OCD, "I see this neat model, and accept it must be so!" The desire to accept the cleaner, mathematically simpler model is a learned behavior of more modern times and philosophies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 5971296, member: 177"] Given that they didn't know about gravity yet, understanding the shape of the planet and understanding orbits were separate things. Go look at the dates - 150 years from Copernicus to something like wider acceptance. It was not as clean as you make it sound. Dude, all of human civilization is a pittance in "the scope of time". While that sounds poetic, I don't see how it is relevant. You talked about it being "instinctual" - that means acceptance should have been automatic, like a reflex. It wasn't. Again, a century and a half of history argues against you - I'm sorry, but the pretty picture was not as convincing to astronomers at the time as you seem to make it out. His peers generally ignored Copernicus. It wasn't until Newton's Laws (which could be applied to ordinary objects, and also to heavenly bodies) came along that the model really got wider acceptance. And Galileo died a year (almost to the day) before Newton was born. And it isn't/wasn't just a religious issue - humans, in general, *resist* having their notions of the universe changed. There is no instinct to accept elegance, no OCD, "I see this neat model, and accept it must be so!" The desire to accept the cleaner, mathematically simpler model is a learned behavior of more modern times and philosophies. [/QUOTE]
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