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What is an "Attack Action" and "Full Attack Action"
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<blockquote data-quote="Vurt" data-source="post: 3781519" data-attributes="member: 1547"><p>4) Casting <em>scorching ray</em> is an "attack" -- it requires an attack roll to hit, does damage -- but is not part of the attack or full attack actions. The attack and full attack actions are for combat using weapons, primarily, whereas spells and the like tend to use the language of requiring the use of swift, immediate, standard and 1 round actions.</p><p></p><p>The thing to keep in mind is that all these actions are specific things. On p.141 of the PHB there's a table of actions under the broader category of what kind they are. For example, the attack (melee) action is listed at the top of the list of standard actions.</p><p></p><p>An attack (melee) action is a standard action, but the converse is not true. A standard action is not an attack (melee) action, it's something more general than that, and encompasses many more options. (Again, see table 8-2 on PHB 141.)</p><p></p><p>To touch lightly on your other thread, maneuvers are similar to spells in that they require certain actions to initiate, as spelled out in the maneuver description. For example, <em>emerald razor</em> says it requires a standard action. As part of the maneuver, you can make an attack, but like my previous example with <em>scorching ray</em>, the attack it allows is explicitly spelled out in its description. <em>Shadow jaunt</em> is another maneuver which also uses a standard action to initiate but does not involve an attack at all.</p><p></p><p>In that regard, perhaps it's best to think of B9S maneuvers as spells which often grant attacks.</p><p></p><p>As for 1, 2, and 3), see PHB 139 and 143. Alternatively, <a href="http://dndsrd.net/actionsInCombat.html" target="_blank">here's the relevant section in the SRD</a>.</p><p></p><p>Hope this helps,</p><p>Vurt</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vurt, post: 3781519, member: 1547"] 4) Casting [i]scorching ray[/i] is an "attack" -- it requires an attack roll to hit, does damage -- but is not part of the attack or full attack actions. The attack and full attack actions are for combat using weapons, primarily, whereas spells and the like tend to use the language of requiring the use of swift, immediate, standard and 1 round actions. The thing to keep in mind is that all these actions are specific things. On p.141 of the PHB there's a table of actions under the broader category of what kind they are. For example, the attack (melee) action is listed at the top of the list of standard actions. An attack (melee) action is a standard action, but the converse is not true. A standard action is not an attack (melee) action, it's something more general than that, and encompasses many more options. (Again, see table 8-2 on PHB 141.) To touch lightly on your other thread, maneuvers are similar to spells in that they require certain actions to initiate, as spelled out in the maneuver description. For example, [i]emerald razor[/i] says it requires a standard action. As part of the maneuver, you can make an attack, but like my previous example with [i]scorching ray[/i], the attack it allows is explicitly spelled out in its description. [i]Shadow jaunt[/i] is another maneuver which also uses a standard action to initiate but does not involve an attack at all. In that regard, perhaps it's best to think of B9S maneuvers as spells which often grant attacks. As for 1, 2, and 3), see PHB 139 and 143. Alternatively, [URL=http://dndsrd.net/actionsInCombat.html]here's the relevant section in the SRD[/url]. Hope this helps, Vurt [/QUOTE]
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