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What is "grim and gritty" and "low magic" anyway?
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<blockquote data-quote="Gothmog" data-source="post: 1419996" data-attributes="member: 317"><p>Well, yeah. You have basically come out and said what I was alluding to. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wow, I don't think you could be more wrong. A DM being a plot nazi/railroader has nothing to do with low magic/GnG type games- its simply the sign of a bad DM. In fact, most plot nazis I have run into have run default to EXTREMELY high magic games, and want to tell their "epic story". They usually have invincible pet NPCs, and events that the PCs cannot influence at all, and are punished if they try. I don't think all high magic games are like this obviously, but bad experience with previous railroading high magic DMs is one reason I don't tend to like high magic/heroic types of games. That, and I prefer the feel of a game that is more Howard/Leiber like.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok, I'll give you that I don't really like the high-powered spells in D&D. Its not that I can't handle them in play, as much as I just don't like the feel and flavor they give the world. However, I will disagree with you that more inexperienced/bad DMs tend to run low magic games. Almost all inexperienced DMs run standard D&D since the guidelines are set out for you in the core books. Think of it this way: in standard D&D, if a character wants to learn something, you use divination/commune/what have you and an answer is provided for you. In a low magic game, such options often are not available, and the PCs have to do lots of invesigation, legwork, and make contacts to learn the required info. That takes a HELL of a lot more work on the DMs part to come up with, roleplay through, and make sure the info given makes logical sense.</p><p></p><p>I really don't understand the vehemence with which some posters attack low magic/GnG gaming. Yes, I could come on and say how much I hate high magic epic level gaming, but what would be the point? Its not going to change anyone's mind, and only make me look like a fool. Its a taste preference, nothing more. There is no right or wrong way to play the game, as long as you have fun!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gothmog, post: 1419996, member: 317"] Well, yeah. You have basically come out and said what I was alluding to. ;) Wow, I don't think you could be more wrong. A DM being a plot nazi/railroader has nothing to do with low magic/GnG type games- its simply the sign of a bad DM. In fact, most plot nazis I have run into have run default to EXTREMELY high magic games, and want to tell their "epic story". They usually have invincible pet NPCs, and events that the PCs cannot influence at all, and are punished if they try. I don't think all high magic games are like this obviously, but bad experience with previous railroading high magic DMs is one reason I don't tend to like high magic/heroic types of games. That, and I prefer the feel of a game that is more Howard/Leiber like. Ok, I'll give you that I don't really like the high-powered spells in D&D. Its not that I can't handle them in play, as much as I just don't like the feel and flavor they give the world. However, I will disagree with you that more inexperienced/bad DMs tend to run low magic games. Almost all inexperienced DMs run standard D&D since the guidelines are set out for you in the core books. Think of it this way: in standard D&D, if a character wants to learn something, you use divination/commune/what have you and an answer is provided for you. In a low magic game, such options often are not available, and the PCs have to do lots of invesigation, legwork, and make contacts to learn the required info. That takes a HELL of a lot more work on the DMs part to come up with, roleplay through, and make sure the info given makes logical sense. I really don't understand the vehemence with which some posters attack low magic/GnG gaming. Yes, I could come on and say how much I hate high magic epic level gaming, but what would be the point? Its not going to change anyone's mind, and only make me look like a fool. Its a taste preference, nothing more. There is no right or wrong way to play the game, as long as you have fun! [/QUOTE]
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