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What is "grim and gritty" and "low magic" anyway?
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<blockquote data-quote="Bendris Noulg" data-source="post: 1437192" data-attributes="member: 6398"><p>I wouldn't consider this the same thing, though. For instance, one of the key points of attraction for FR when it was released is that magic wasn't all that common but <em>every</em> adventure provided some new piece of magic for the PCs to "re-discover". As the game progressed from 1E to 2E and now to 3E, this issue of "re-discovery" changed to "common as Floridian misquitos".</p><p> </p><p>Now, am I complaining about this? No. FR's not a world I've particularly cared for. However, I can see people that came to FR for its earlier offerings being in conflict with those that came to FR for its later offerings, as the two versions are entirely different in both flavor and style.</p><p> </p><p>(And, honestly, if I was "forced" to run an FR campaign, I'd be more apt to convert the low-magic 1E grey box set to d20 than I would be to blow the dust off of the 3E hardcover and play it as a 3E game.)</p><p> </p><p>I don't deny such individuals exist. However, as I pointed out, this thread seems to have a few snobby and arrogant individuals preaching for the "other camp", as it were. Did you see them, or would you like me to dig up the quotes?</p><p> </p><p>How so? I've presented my opinions and tastes (High Magic comes across as cheesy and I prefer Low Magic). Am I saying "High Magic Sucks"? Am I saying "High Magic Players want High Magic because they are complete morons that can't play without it"? Am I saying "Only an incompetant GM doesn't have the balls to break away from the default conditions"?</p><p> </p><p>No, I'm not saying any of that.</p><p> </p><p>However, when I say "I like Low Magic", the above comments seem to be what a lot of people <em>wish</em> I was saying so that they could have something to complain about. And, obviously, some of them reply as if I had.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bendris Noulg, post: 1437192, member: 6398"] I wouldn't consider this the same thing, though. For instance, one of the key points of attraction for FR when it was released is that magic wasn't all that common but [i]every[/i] adventure provided some new piece of magic for the PCs to "re-discover". As the game progressed from 1E to 2E and now to 3E, this issue of "re-discovery" changed to "common as Floridian misquitos". Now, am I complaining about this? No. FR's not a world I've particularly cared for. However, I can see people that came to FR for its earlier offerings being in conflict with those that came to FR for its later offerings, as the two versions are entirely different in both flavor and style. (And, honestly, if I was "forced" to run an FR campaign, I'd be more apt to convert the low-magic 1E grey box set to d20 than I would be to blow the dust off of the 3E hardcover and play it as a 3E game.) I don't deny such individuals exist. However, as I pointed out, this thread seems to have a few snobby and arrogant individuals preaching for the "other camp", as it were. Did you see them, or would you like me to dig up the quotes? How so? I've presented my opinions and tastes (High Magic comes across as cheesy and I prefer Low Magic). Am I saying "High Magic Sucks"? Am I saying "High Magic Players want High Magic because they are complete morons that can't play without it"? Am I saying "Only an incompetant GM doesn't have the balls to break away from the default conditions"? No, I'm not saying any of that. However, when I say "I like Low Magic", the above comments seem to be what a lot of people [i]wish[/i] I was saying so that they could have something to complain about. And, obviously, some of them reply as if I had. [/QUOTE]
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