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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7457939" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>She doesn't implode *because of the alcohol*, though. The alcohol is presented as a result of her problems, not a cause of them. The alcohol is treated as "self medication" for her other issues, and itself doesn't get in her way - she never loses a fight for being drunk, does she? And I know a number of people who love JJ, and think that her hard-drinking is there to show that she's badass, because ability to hold one's liquor is seen as a sign of strength.</p><p></p><p>Those are the reasons why I think of it as being normalized - especially the hard-drinking as a sign of strength.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Before I question your statement here... define what you think qualifies as stakes for me, please? </p><p></p><p>I will note that what I expect what you are calling the "stakes" are not finalized in the season itself - they carry over into The Defenders. I'd say there are loads of personal and emotional stakes in Iron Fist</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd say three things here:</p><p></p><p>1) Iron Fist does have the problem of cultural appropriation. While they do address that in the series, I think extended sequences of the culture of K'un-Lun would shift them back into problematic territory.</p><p></p><p>2) Traditional origin stories are overrated overdone. Did you forget that JJ didn't do hers until Season 2? They even hung a lampshade on it when JJ and LUke Cage meet - "You? Accident. </p><p> And you? Experiment," and they moved on. </p><p></p><p>3) Danny has super-human abilities. But he's not a hero when he shows up in NYC. It is over the course of the series that he struggles between his own internal desires and issues, and doing the right thing for the right reasons. We might say that he's a hero by the end of his season, but he wasn't before. It is because of that becoming that he was able to be of just to Luke Cage in his second season.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7457939, member: 177"] She doesn't implode *because of the alcohol*, though. The alcohol is presented as a result of her problems, not a cause of them. The alcohol is treated as "self medication" for her other issues, and itself doesn't get in her way - she never loses a fight for being drunk, does she? And I know a number of people who love JJ, and think that her hard-drinking is there to show that she's badass, because ability to hold one's liquor is seen as a sign of strength. Those are the reasons why I think of it as being normalized - especially the hard-drinking as a sign of strength. Before I question your statement here... define what you think qualifies as stakes for me, please? I will note that what I expect what you are calling the "stakes" are not finalized in the season itself - they carry over into The Defenders. I'd say there are loads of personal and emotional stakes in Iron Fist I'd say three things here: 1) Iron Fist does have the problem of cultural appropriation. While they do address that in the series, I think extended sequences of the culture of K'un-Lun would shift them back into problematic territory. 2) Traditional origin stories are overrated overdone. Did you forget that JJ didn't do hers until Season 2? They even hung a lampshade on it when JJ and LUke Cage meet - "You? Accident. And you? Experiment," and they moved on. 3) Danny has super-human abilities. But he's not a hero when he shows up in NYC. It is over the course of the series that he struggles between his own internal desires and issues, and doing the right thing for the right reasons. We might say that he's a hero by the end of his season, but he wasn't before. It is because of that becoming that he was able to be of just to Luke Cage in his second season. [/QUOTE]
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