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<blockquote data-quote="the_redbeard" data-source="post: 4344844" data-attributes="member: 22644"><p>Page 188:</p><p><em>Stealth: Part of whatever action you are trying to</em></p><p><em>perform stealthily</em></p><p></p><p>The stealth ACTION is part of another action during which you are trying to keep hidden.</p><p></p><p><em>Success: You avoid notice, unheard and <strong>hidden from</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>view.</strong> If you later attack or shout, you’re no longer</em></p><p><em>hidden.</em></p><p></p><p>If you succeed, you are hidden. Yes, this is a state of being.</p><p></p><p>What are the in-game effects of being hidden, this strange mystical state of being that is being debated?</p><p></p><p>Also on page 188:</p><p><em>Superior Cover or Total Concealment: If you have</em></p><p><em>superior cover or total concealment, a creature can’t</em></p><p><em>see you and can’t be sure of your exact location.</em></p><p></p><p>Using the reflexive and associative properties and a dictionary, since</p><p></p><p> Total Concealment = can't see you</p><p>And </p><p>can't see you = hidden = successfully stealthing</p><p>Then </p><p>Successfully stealthing = Total Concealment.</p><p></p><p>What is Total Concealment?</p><p></p><p><em>Superior Cover or Total Concealment: If you have</em></p><p><em>superior cover or total concealment, a creature can’t</em></p><p><em>see you and can’t be sure of your exact location. If its</em></p><p><em>Perception check beats your Stealth check, though,</em></p><p><em>it knows you are present, knows the direction to</em></p><p><em>your location, and has a vague idea of the distance</em></p><p><em>between the two of you. If its Perception check</em></p><p><em>beats your Stealth check by 10 or more, the creature</em></p><p><em>can pinpoint your location until the end of your next</em></p><p><em>turn, even if you move.</em></p><p></p><p>With the (I hope) obvious exception that if the opponent's perception merely beats your stealth roll, you lose Total Concealment and only have the concealment or cover that enabled you to stealth in the first place. If you were invisible, or in total darkness against a foe without darkvision, the opponent is fully bound by the conditions in Total Concealment above.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thank you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="the_redbeard, post: 4344844, member: 22644"] Page 188: [i]Stealth: Part of whatever action you are trying to perform stealthily[/i] The stealth ACTION is part of another action during which you are trying to keep hidden. [i]Success: You avoid notice, unheard and [b]hidden from view.[/b] If you later attack or shout, you’re no longer hidden.[/i] If you succeed, you are hidden. Yes, this is a state of being. What are the in-game effects of being hidden, this strange mystical state of being that is being debated? Also on page 188: [i]Superior Cover or Total Concealment: If you have superior cover or total concealment, a creature can’t see you and can’t be sure of your exact location.[/i] Using the reflexive and associative properties and a dictionary, since Total Concealment = can't see you And can't see you = hidden = successfully stealthing Then Successfully stealthing = Total Concealment. What is Total Concealment? [i]Superior Cover or Total Concealment: If you have superior cover or total concealment, a creature can’t see you and can’t be sure of your exact location. If its Perception check beats your Stealth check, though, it knows you are present, knows the direction to your location, and has a vague idea of the distance between the two of you. If its Perception check beats your Stealth check by 10 or more, the creature can pinpoint your location until the end of your next turn, even if you move.[/i] With the (I hope) obvious exception that if the opponent's perception merely beats your stealth roll, you lose Total Concealment and only have the concealment or cover that enabled you to stealth in the first place. If you were invisible, or in total darkness against a foe without darkvision, the opponent is fully bound by the conditions in Total Concealment above. Thank you. [/QUOTE]
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