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<blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 8613378" data-attributes="member: 19857"><p>So on the one hand I see the space for a 4e retroclone and have lamented before that none of them are quite right - though I've been looking at ORCUS off and on since the last time this subject came up and it was pointed out to me - it looks pretty good. <a href="https://sanglorian.github.io/orcus/" target="_blank">Home</a></p><p></p><p>On the other hand, the retroclones grew out of a desire to play old editions of D&D when Wizards wasn't selling those old editions. These days you can buy any edition of D&D you want from DM's Guild, including 4e. So the drive to make a retroclone is a bit less intense because if I want to run a 4e game not only do I have my books, any new players who don't own them could actually buy them (at least in PDF - it would be nice if they'd put 3e and 4e into POD like they have 1e and 2e).</p><p></p><p>On the gripping hand, the existence of the GSL means writing material to support 4e is nearly impossible without a clean room retroclone. I doubt that Wizards would actually send a cease and desist if you put out material for 4e without using the GSL to do it, but that threat hanging over the edition has done exactly what Wizards wanted the GSL to do - make it difficult for folks to keep using the edition when they decided they no longer wanted to support it. Which means that new adventure material has to be made by me - I can't go out and buy any 4e adventures. Which is fine, but doesn't really help you build a community of 4e supporters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jer, post: 8613378, member: 19857"] So on the one hand I see the space for a 4e retroclone and have lamented before that none of them are quite right - though I've been looking at ORCUS off and on since the last time this subject came up and it was pointed out to me - it looks pretty good. [URL="https://sanglorian.github.io/orcus/"]Home[/URL] On the other hand, the retroclones grew out of a desire to play old editions of D&D when Wizards wasn't selling those old editions. These days you can buy any edition of D&D you want from DM's Guild, including 4e. So the drive to make a retroclone is a bit less intense because if I want to run a 4e game not only do I have my books, any new players who don't own them could actually buy them (at least in PDF - it would be nice if they'd put 3e and 4e into POD like they have 1e and 2e). On the gripping hand, the existence of the GSL means writing material to support 4e is nearly impossible without a clean room retroclone. I doubt that Wizards would actually send a cease and desist if you put out material for 4e without using the GSL to do it, but that threat hanging over the edition has done exactly what Wizards wanted the GSL to do - make it difficult for folks to keep using the edition when they decided they no longer wanted to support it. Which means that new adventure material has to be made by me - I can't go out and buy any 4e adventures. Which is fine, but doesn't really help you build a community of 4e supporters. [/QUOTE]
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