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<blockquote data-quote="payn" data-source="post: 8882356" data-attributes="member: 90374"><p>Yeap, got notes of my own.</p><p></p><p>[spoiler=spoiler] I agree with you on Bob, but then again every character is just like Bob. I felt at times, every character fit perfectly, and also every character fit poorly. Also, the writing was good and somehow bad too.</p><p></p><p>FBI agent and her drug addiction was actually a good lead into why she was so addicted to the case. However, Ava sets her up and the FBI doesnt even suspend her (with her background???) and she instantly flips it on Ava. The entire lost custody kid story is a toss away feels bit.</p><p></p><p>Ava is this slick super smart and resourceful fence, armorer, lawyer, whatever you need. Yet, she decided to F with the FBI and not protect her Te-Te? A plan for everything but what seems to be most important to her??? Seems like a shoehorned weakness for the feels bit.</p><p></p><p>Ray perhaps biggest of all. The mastermind that somehow goes from low level cat burglary to Top 5 safest vault in the world thief. I get that he had an inside source but nobody was like "hey Ray isnt this out of your pay grade?" Isnt he a safe cracker? Aparently he isnt anymore. How did he hook up with Ava? He goes from a dedicated husband to jail to Ava's squeeze? Ray's issues are not that bad they just suffer from a lot of off screen assumption.</p><p></p><p>Speaking of off screen assumption we have Roger. He is 90% of the time this slick man of the industry type. He too goes from simple con man (who is deep in debt) to top of the world somehow in a matter of 15 years. We get these few tender moments with his son and working with Ray to see hes not all bad. A theme that goes on with many characters.</p><p></p><p>I could go on but I probably made my point by now. Kelidescope is hardly the only victim of this writing style. These heist movies have a formula thats designed to trick the viewer in ways that often are contradictory and make no sense, until they do through contrivance. It just sticks out in particular in Kelidescope because you get 8 hours of it instead of 90 min. [/spoiler]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="payn, post: 8882356, member: 90374"] Yeap, got notes of my own. [spoiler=spoiler] I agree with you on Bob, but then again every character is just like Bob. I felt at times, every character fit perfectly, and also every character fit poorly. Also, the writing was good and somehow bad too. FBI agent and her drug addiction was actually a good lead into why she was so addicted to the case. However, Ava sets her up and the FBI doesnt even suspend her (with her background???) and she instantly flips it on Ava. The entire lost custody kid story is a toss away feels bit. Ava is this slick super smart and resourceful fence, armorer, lawyer, whatever you need. Yet, she decided to F with the FBI and not protect her Te-Te? A plan for everything but what seems to be most important to her??? Seems like a shoehorned weakness for the feels bit. Ray perhaps biggest of all. The mastermind that somehow goes from low level cat burglary to Top 5 safest vault in the world thief. I get that he had an inside source but nobody was like "hey Ray isnt this out of your pay grade?" Isnt he a safe cracker? Aparently he isnt anymore. How did he hook up with Ava? He goes from a dedicated husband to jail to Ava's squeeze? Ray's issues are not that bad they just suffer from a lot of off screen assumption. Speaking of off screen assumption we have Roger. He is 90% of the time this slick man of the industry type. He too goes from simple con man (who is deep in debt) to top of the world somehow in a matter of 15 years. We get these few tender moments with his son and working with Ray to see hes not all bad. A theme that goes on with many characters. I could go on but I probably made my point by now. Kelidescope is hardly the only victim of this writing style. These heist movies have a formula thats designed to trick the viewer in ways that often are contradictory and make no sense, until they do through contrivance. It just sticks out in particular in Kelidescope because you get 8 hours of it instead of 90 min. [/spoiler] [/QUOTE]
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