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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7595946" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Few prospective Pathfinder customers play 5E without feats.</p><p></p><p>Whether rogue damage in the options-off game is enough is simply not very relevant. That feats exist that almost double fighter damage without doing much for rogues is. You can't divorce the feats from the system.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I was talking about a game model where you need to choose between offense and defense - you can't have both. </p><p></p><p>No existing DnD game from WotC or Paizo comes even close to this.</p><p></p><p>I'm not interested in the Rogue having DPS "close enough" to the warriors. I want to explore a game where if you have half the defense you get twice the offense.</p><p></p><p>To paint you a picture of how far away 5E is, imagine if the -5/+10 feats didn't exist, and sneak damage was tripled (for melee only).</p><p></p><p><em>Now</em> we're talking!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7595946, member: 12731"] Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Few prospective Pathfinder customers play 5E without feats. Whether rogue damage in the options-off game is enough is simply not very relevant. That feats exist that almost double fighter damage without doing much for rogues is. You can't divorce the feats from the system. Anyway, I was talking about a game model where you need to choose between offense and defense - you can't have both. No existing DnD game from WotC or Paizo comes even close to this. I'm not interested in the Rogue having DPS "close enough" to the warriors. I want to explore a game where if you have half the defense you get twice the offense. To paint you a picture of how far away 5E is, imagine if the -5/+10 feats didn't exist, and sneak damage was tripled (for melee only). [I]Now[/I] we're talking! [/QUOTE]
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