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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7134516" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>According to interviews on DragonTalk with Perkins, he wrote/finished both <em>Curse of Strahd</em> and <em>Storm King's Thunder</em> only a few months prior to their release. </p><p>I imagine the planning starts early (especially for SKT that also has minis, board games, and video games to coordinate) and the actual adventure comes later. The broad strokes of the adventure are planned, and it's just a matter of filling in the details: writing the individual rooms and Grey Boxed Text as it were. </p><p></p><p></p><p>They've settled into a "big story" and "small story" rhythm. One tied into videogames and minis and more. And one that's not. The small spring story that is mostly a reprint (since it's coming so shortly after the fall book) and the big summer story that details the Realms and acts as a gazetteer.</p><p><em>Curse of Strahd</em> and <em>Tales from the Yawning Portal</em> were both "small" stories in that regard. TftYP was also an exception as it was written by Kim Mohan and Mike Mearls rather than Chris Perkins (I imagine for time reasons). Honestly, I either expect another complication adventure or expanded reprint, like the above two. Something where half the adventure is just an update. So it can be done more easily, and give Perkins more time to focus on the needs of the "big" summer adventure of 2018, that has more tie-ins.</p><p></p><p><em>Expedition to the Barrier Peaks<em> is an odd choice for an adventure. Going spaceship and sci-fi is cool, but it's a little soon in the life of the game. Build a larger staple of traditional fantasy stuff first, and then get. I'm not saying it's impossible… just that it's a little more of a stretch and they might try for something a little safer first. After all, every storyline is someone's first, and you don't want to start with aliens and lasers. </em></em></p><p><em><em>It's too big of an adventure NOT to do. But I expect they're thinking about 2019 for that bad-boy.</em></em></p><p><em><em></em></em></p><p><em><em>It's also likely a little too soon for a <em>More Tales from the Yawning Portal</em>. So a reprint/ compilation might be harder to justify. </em></em></p><p><em><em></em></em></p><p><em><em>Looking at classic adventures: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <em>Desert of Desolation</em> is a good choice. Combining three adventures, it should be pretty large. (128-pages apparently. So they only need to expand it by 100 or so. Which is easily done by having some more setting description and low level adventuring.) Plus, deserts, mummies, and ancient tombs (that are actual tombs) haven't been done yet, and are classical but slightly different. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <em>Gates of Firestorm Peak</em> is a biggie that hasn't been touched. That could work. Get into the Far Realms lore and touch on aberrants. Would need a lot more expansion.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <em>Dragon Mountain</em> and <em>Red Hand of Doom</em> likely feature monsters that have been in a spotlight too much. Dragons need a break. Ditto the drow and <em>Queen of the Spiders</em>... although they did overlap giants and Acererak. So that's no guarantee. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <em>Scourge of the Slavelords</em>. This one can easily fill a book.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <em>Undermountain</em>. Which was teased and set-up with <em>Tales from the Yawning Portal</em> and is a pretty iconic mega-dungeon. We've seen a lot of small dungeons, but no singular megadungeons. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <em>Rod of Seven Parts</em>. If this was planned, it might not have been a throw-away element of <em>TStorm King's Thunder</em>. But… it did tease that item and set it up for a future story…</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <em>Dancing Hut of Baba Yaga</em>. It's been commented in the past, that this could work well as a feywild adventure. I'd love a faerie adventure.</li> </ul><p></em></em></p><p><em><em>Looking at big villain types that haven't been featured: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Githyanki. Iconic to D&D, having been featured on the cover of the <em>Fiend Folio</em>. And invasion of the material plane ending in a planar jaunt to the Astral Plane and siege of a Githyanki city would be cool. But… it's not evoking a classic adventure, so WotC likely won't do it… (Although, Chris Perkins did write the high level <em>Lich Queen's Beloved</em> for <em>Dungeon Magazine</em>.)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Mind Flayers. These were skipped in <em>Out of the Abyss</em>. Likely so they could be used later. Again, this could tie nicely into <em>Gates of Firestorm Peak</em>. I imagine they might wait until 2019, and tie it into a psionic book. Or something with the Mind Flayers and githyanki fighting. But, again, it's not evoking a classic adventure, so WotC likely won't do it...</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Orcs. There's not really any iconic orc adventures, so these guys have fallen to the wayside… And probably will continue to just be random encounters. But since WotC is only interested in call-backs...</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Devils. These saw a little attention in <em>Tyranny of Dragons</em> but we haven't seen Asmodeus really make himself known. And, one more time, no classic to draw from. Well… maybe <em>A Paladin in Hell</em>...</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Genies. Likely to Al-Qadim. But I'm gagging for a big adventure that goes to the City of Brass, which has always been a criminally underused part of D&D, despite once being featured on the cover of the freakin' DMG. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Fairies/ fey. See above.</li> </ul><p></em></em></p><p><em><em><strong>Spring 2018</strong></em></em></p><p><em><em>I think <em>Scourge of the Slavelords</em> is high on the list of most likely updates. It can be given the <em>Curse of Strahd</em> treatment and made a little more cohesive, while also working as a series of smaller adventures. Because people want smaller adventures. </em></em></p><p><em><em></em></em></p><p><em><em><strong>Summer 2018</strong></em></em></p><p><em><em>Then maybe a reimagined <em>Desert of Desolation</em>, placed in Mulhorand.</em></em></p><p><em><em></em></em></p><p><em><em>(Either could be replaced for <em>Undermountain</em>.)</em></em></p><p><em><em></em></em></p><p><em><em><strong>Fall 2018</strong></em></em></p><p><em><em>A book of magic items. Maybe with some lore on crafting and shopping, with some magic item shops. More artifacts and lots of advice on creating artifacts and building campaigns around them. </em></em></p><p><em><em>Ideal title: <em>Bazaars of the City of Brass</em>. Detail the city and its markets. </em></em></p><p><em><em>Maybe also the artificer, now that I think of it.</em></em></p><p><em><em></em></em></p><p><em><em><strong>Spring 2019</strong></em></em></p><p><em><em>Time to get weird. Expanded <em>Expedition to the Barrier Peaks<em></em></em></em></em></p><p><em><em><em><em></em></em></em></em></p><p><em><em><em><em><strong>Summer 2019</strong></em></em></em></em></p><p><em><em><em><em>Summer of aberrations <em>Gates of Firestorm Peak</em> mashed with invading Githyanki versus Mind Flayers. </em></em></em></em></p><p><em><em><em><em></em></em></em></em></p><p><em><em><em><em><strong>Fall 2019</strong></em></em></em></em></p><p><em><em><em><em>Psionics and the Mystic. Maybe something on the planes. Planar gazetteer, like the <em>Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide</em>.</em></em></em></em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 7134516, member: 37579"] According to interviews on DragonTalk with Perkins, he wrote/finished both [i]Curse of Strahd[/i] and [i]Storm King's Thunder[/i] only a few months prior to their release. I imagine the planning starts early (especially for SKT that also has minis, board games, and video games to coordinate) and the actual adventure comes later. The broad strokes of the adventure are planned, and it's just a matter of filling in the details: writing the individual rooms and Grey Boxed Text as it were. They've settled into a "big story" and "small story" rhythm. One tied into videogames and minis and more. And one that's not. The small spring story that is mostly a reprint (since it's coming so shortly after the fall book) and the big summer story that details the Realms and acts as a gazetteer. [i]Curse of Strahd[/i] and [i]Tales from the Yawning Portal[/i] were both "small" stories in that regard. TftYP was also an exception as it was written by Kim Mohan and Mike Mearls rather than Chris Perkins (I imagine for time reasons). Honestly, I either expect another complication adventure or expanded reprint, like the above two. Something where half the adventure is just an update. So it can be done more easily, and give Perkins more time to focus on the needs of the "big" summer adventure of 2018, that has more tie-ins. [i]Expedition to the Barrier Peaks[i] is an odd choice for an adventure. Going spaceship and sci-fi is cool, but it's a little soon in the life of the game. Build a larger staple of traditional fantasy stuff first, and then get. I'm not saying it's impossible… just that it's a little more of a stretch and they might try for something a little safer first. After all, every storyline is someone's first, and you don't want to start with aliens and lasers. It's too big of an adventure NOT to do. But I expect they're thinking about 2019 for that bad-boy. It's also likely a little too soon for a [i]More Tales from the Yawning Portal[/i]. So a reprint/ compilation might be harder to justify. Looking at classic adventures:[LIST] [*] [i]Desert of Desolation[/i] is a good choice. Combining three adventures, it should be pretty large. (128-pages apparently. So they only need to expand it by 100 or so. Which is easily done by having some more setting description and low level adventuring.) Plus, deserts, mummies, and ancient tombs (that are actual tombs) haven't been done yet, and are classical but slightly different. [*] [i]Gates of Firestorm Peak[/i] is a biggie that hasn't been touched. That could work. Get into the Far Realms lore and touch on aberrants. Would need a lot more expansion. [*] [i]Dragon Mountain[/i] and [i]Red Hand of Doom[/i] likely feature monsters that have been in a spotlight too much. Dragons need a break. Ditto the drow and [i]Queen of the Spiders[/i]... although they did overlap giants and Acererak. So that's no guarantee. [*] [i]Scourge of the Slavelords[/i]. This one can easily fill a book. [*] [i]Undermountain[/i]. Which was teased and set-up with [i]Tales from the Yawning Portal[/i] and is a pretty iconic mega-dungeon. We've seen a lot of small dungeons, but no singular megadungeons. [*] [i]Rod of Seven Parts[/i]. If this was planned, it might not have been a throw-away element of [i]TStorm King's Thunder[/i]. But… it did tease that item and set it up for a future story… [*] [i]Dancing Hut of Baba Yaga[/i]. It's been commented in the past, that this could work well as a feywild adventure. I'd love a faerie adventure. [/list] Looking at big villain types that haven't been featured:[list] [*] Githyanki. Iconic to D&D, having been featured on the cover of the [i]Fiend Folio[/i]. And invasion of the material plane ending in a planar jaunt to the Astral Plane and siege of a Githyanki city would be cool. But… it's not evoking a classic adventure, so WotC likely won't do it… (Although, Chris Perkins did write the high level [i]Lich Queen's Beloved[/i] for [i]Dungeon Magazine[/i].) [*] Mind Flayers. These were skipped in [i]Out of the Abyss[/i]. Likely so they could be used later. Again, this could tie nicely into [i]Gates of Firestorm Peak[/i]. I imagine they might wait until 2019, and tie it into a psionic book. Or something with the Mind Flayers and githyanki fighting. But, again, it's not evoking a classic adventure, so WotC likely won't do it... [*] Orcs. There's not really any iconic orc adventures, so these guys have fallen to the wayside… And probably will continue to just be random encounters. But since WotC is only interested in call-backs... [*] Devils. These saw a little attention in [i]Tyranny of Dragons[/i] but we haven't seen Asmodeus really make himself known. And, one more time, no classic to draw from. Well… maybe [i]A Paladin in Hell[/i]... [*] Genies. Likely to Al-Qadim. But I'm gagging for a big adventure that goes to the City of Brass, which has always been a criminally underused part of D&D, despite once being featured on the cover of the freakin' DMG. [*] Fairies/ fey. See above. [/list] [b]Spring 2018[/b] I think [i]Scourge of the Slavelords[/i] is high on the list of most likely updates. It can be given the [i]Curse of Strahd[/i] treatment and made a little more cohesive, while also working as a series of smaller adventures. Because people want smaller adventures. [b]Summer 2018[/b] Then maybe a reimagined [i]Desert of Desolation[/i], placed in Mulhorand. (Either could be replaced for [i]Undermountain[/i].) [b]Fall 2018[/b] A book of magic items. Maybe with some lore on crafting and shopping, with some magic item shops. More artifacts and lots of advice on creating artifacts and building campaigns around them. Ideal title: [i]Bazaars of the City of Brass[/i]. Detail the city and its markets. Maybe also the artificer, now that I think of it. [b]Spring 2019[/b] Time to get weird. Expanded [i]Expedition to the Barrier Peaks[i] [b]Summer 2019[/b] Summer of aberrations [i]Gates of Firestorm Peak[/i] mashed with invading Githyanki versus Mind Flayers. [b]Fall 2019[/b] Psionics and the Mystic. Maybe something on the planes. Planar gazetteer, like the [i]Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide[/i].[/i][/i][/i][/i] [/QUOTE]
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