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<blockquote data-quote="ForeverSlayer" data-source="post: 5639041" data-attributes="member: 91812"><p>Actually he was saying don't blame the player nor the game. Do you actually take the time to actually read the posts or do you just have a problem with reading comprehension? </p><p></p><p>Let me see if I can break it down for you. If you don't understand just ask some questions and I will answer them. </p><p></p><p>There are several factors that goes into who is actually to blame. Now the player can be blamed at times and the system can be blamed at times, but since we don't know all the factors then the best thing would be to actually not point the finger at anyone. You see, if you were trying to argue that 1 + 1 = 2 and he was trying to say that it was 3 then that person is to blame and not the math problem. Now, with what (nnms) was referring to was a combination of his fault as well as a fault of the system. Since 4th edition is something that costs money and it ceases to interest him then it has failed in what it was supposed to do and that was keep him interested enough to keep playing and keep buying the products. When you go to a restaurant and you order, let's say a steak, and they cook it the normal way that always do. Well you tell the waiter that they need to take it back because it's not cooked right. That waiter is not going to tell you no, even though that steak was cooked the same way as all the others. Yes it your fault because you don't like the steak which is a matter of opinion, but the cook failed because he didn't make you a steak that you liked. </p><p></p><p>Now when it comes to D&D, if enough people ,like you in the restaurant, don't like the way D&D the way it is and find that it is boring and repetitive and more people don't buy the game than actually do buy it then it becomes the fault of the game system because it failed to interest enough people to buy it. </p><p></p><p>If you seriously need help then I can point you in the right direction.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ForeverSlayer, post: 5639041, member: 91812"] Actually he was saying don't blame the player nor the game. Do you actually take the time to actually read the posts or do you just have a problem with reading comprehension? Let me see if I can break it down for you. If you don't understand just ask some questions and I will answer them. There are several factors that goes into who is actually to blame. Now the player can be blamed at times and the system can be blamed at times, but since we don't know all the factors then the best thing would be to actually not point the finger at anyone. You see, if you were trying to argue that 1 + 1 = 2 and he was trying to say that it was 3 then that person is to blame and not the math problem. Now, with what (nnms) was referring to was a combination of his fault as well as a fault of the system. Since 4th edition is something that costs money and it ceases to interest him then it has failed in what it was supposed to do and that was keep him interested enough to keep playing and keep buying the products. When you go to a restaurant and you order, let's say a steak, and they cook it the normal way that always do. Well you tell the waiter that they need to take it back because it's not cooked right. That waiter is not going to tell you no, even though that steak was cooked the same way as all the others. Yes it your fault because you don't like the steak which is a matter of opinion, but the cook failed because he didn't make you a steak that you liked. Now when it comes to D&D, if enough people ,like you in the restaurant, don't like the way D&D the way it is and find that it is boring and repetitive and more people don't buy the game than actually do buy it then it becomes the fault of the game system because it failed to interest enough people to buy it. If you seriously need help then I can point you in the right direction. [/QUOTE]
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