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<blockquote data-quote="Alcamtar" data-source="post: 501240" data-attributes="member: 3842"><p>Hmmm... looks something like this</p><p></p><p>[1982]</p><p></p><p>D&D Basic</p><p>D&D Expert (lots of campaigns)</p><p>AD&D 1E (lots more campaigns)</p><p>Customized D&D-based homebrew</p><p></p><p>[1985, went to college]</p><p></p><p>Fantasy Hero 1E (lots of games)</p><p>GURPS Fantasy 2E (lots of games)</p><p>Traveller</p><p>Spacemaster (shiver)</p><p>Star Frontiers</p><p>Worked on (but never played) several homebrews</p><p></p><p>[1988, quit college, almost no gaming at all]</p><p></p><p>Fantasy Hero 1E</p><p>Fantasy Hero 3E</p><p></p><p>[1992, resumed college, still not much gaming]</p><p></p><p>GURPS Fantasy (3E)</p><p>Fantasy Hero 3E</p><p></p><p>[1995, graduated college, got married]</p><p></p><p>GURPS Conan solo adventures</p><p>GURPS Conan</p><p>GURPS Conan (again)</p><p>Friend's homebrew system</p><p>AD&D 1E</p><p>Fudge</p><p>Basic D&D</p><p>Warhammer FRP</p><p>Freeform (no rules, no dice) with my wife</p><p>Fudge</p><p>Aria RPG</p><p>GURPS Fantasy (3E revised)</p><p>Fudge conversion of D&D</p><p>Fudge conversion of Ars Magica</p><p>The Fantasy Trip</p><p>Aria "interactive history" game</p><p></p><p>[1998 or so, formed a new group]</p><p></p><p>Fudge conversion of D&D (again)</p><p>Basic D&D "nostalgia game"</p><p></p><p>[2000(?), 3E PHB released]</p><p></p><p>D&D 3E demo game</p><p>D&D 3E started campaign</p><p></p><p>[early 2001, took a short break]</p><p></p><p>continued previous D&D 3E campaign</p><p>converted campaign to Basic D&D (rules cyclopedia)</p><p>converted back to D&D 3E</p><p></p><p>[late 2001, took a much longer break]</p><p></p><p>Fudge "rescue santa claus"</p><p>Fudge version of friend's homebrew system</p><p>resumed D&D 3E campaign</p><p>Hackmaster demo game</p><p>resumed D&D 3E campaign</p><p>converted campaign to Fudge</p><p>converted campaign to AD&D 1E</p><p></p><p>Hero 5th edition (too rules heavy)</p><p>Friend's homebrew system</p><p>Munchkin card game</p><p>GURPS Prime Directive (too rules heavy)</p><p>D&D 3E (one-shot with no rulebooks)</p><p></p><p>[taking another break]</p><p></p><p>After lots of waffling I don't think I'll play 3E again, at least not in the foreseeable future. I like the game and it *looks* fun, but every time I actually play I quickly grow frustrated and want to play something else instead. I think mostly it's that I'm burned out on "heavy rules" systems like 3E, GURPS, and Hero, to the point where I just don't enjoy playing any more. Those were my favorites in college but I think my tastes have changed because I can hardly stand the complexity and detailed rules any more. My available "prep time" has also shrunken drastically. I think having a family is a major factor, since all my players love complicated rules and spend hours out of the game reading rulebooks and dreaming up characters and stuff -- but they have no kids. I've seriously considered cutting d20 down to a simpler lightweight system resembling Basic D&D, but decided it wasn't worth the effort when I could just play Basic instead.</p><p></p><p>Currently I'm leaning strongly toward Fudge and Basic D&D, or maybe some "indie" games like Donjon, or possibly just quitting the hobby altogether if I can't find anyone who wants to play them. My sons will be old enough to play in another 3-6 years, and then I'll form my own gaming group and teach them how to play. That'll be sweet, and well worth the wait. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Mike</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alcamtar, post: 501240, member: 3842"] Hmmm... looks something like this [1982] D&D Basic D&D Expert (lots of campaigns) AD&D 1E (lots more campaigns) Customized D&D-based homebrew [1985, went to college] Fantasy Hero 1E (lots of games) GURPS Fantasy 2E (lots of games) Traveller Spacemaster (shiver) Star Frontiers Worked on (but never played) several homebrews [1988, quit college, almost no gaming at all] Fantasy Hero 1E Fantasy Hero 3E [1992, resumed college, still not much gaming] GURPS Fantasy (3E) Fantasy Hero 3E [1995, graduated college, got married] GURPS Conan solo adventures GURPS Conan GURPS Conan (again) Friend's homebrew system AD&D 1E Fudge Basic D&D Warhammer FRP Freeform (no rules, no dice) with my wife Fudge Aria RPG GURPS Fantasy (3E revised) Fudge conversion of D&D Fudge conversion of Ars Magica The Fantasy Trip Aria "interactive history" game [1998 or so, formed a new group] Fudge conversion of D&D (again) Basic D&D "nostalgia game" [2000(?), 3E PHB released] D&D 3E demo game D&D 3E started campaign [early 2001, took a short break] continued previous D&D 3E campaign converted campaign to Basic D&D (rules cyclopedia) converted back to D&D 3E [late 2001, took a much longer break] Fudge "rescue santa claus" Fudge version of friend's homebrew system resumed D&D 3E campaign Hackmaster demo game resumed D&D 3E campaign converted campaign to Fudge converted campaign to AD&D 1E Hero 5th edition (too rules heavy) Friend's homebrew system Munchkin card game GURPS Prime Directive (too rules heavy) D&D 3E (one-shot with no rulebooks) [taking another break] After lots of waffling I don't think I'll play 3E again, at least not in the foreseeable future. I like the game and it *looks* fun, but every time I actually play I quickly grow frustrated and want to play something else instead. I think mostly it's that I'm burned out on "heavy rules" systems like 3E, GURPS, and Hero, to the point where I just don't enjoy playing any more. Those were my favorites in college but I think my tastes have changed because I can hardly stand the complexity and detailed rules any more. My available "prep time" has also shrunken drastically. I think having a family is a major factor, since all my players love complicated rules and spend hours out of the game reading rulebooks and dreaming up characters and stuff -- but they have no kids. I've seriously considered cutting d20 down to a simpler lightweight system resembling Basic D&D, but decided it wasn't worth the effort when I could just play Basic instead. Currently I'm leaning strongly toward Fudge and Basic D&D, or maybe some "indie" games like Donjon, or possibly just quitting the hobby altogether if I can't find anyone who wants to play them. My sons will be old enough to play in another 3-6 years, and then I'll form my own gaming group and teach them how to play. That'll be sweet, and well worth the wait. :-) Mike [/QUOTE]
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