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When did the Fighter become "defender"?
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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 5906660" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>This makes no sense as an analogy... you're comparing one 1st level spell to one of the Fighter's class abilities. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>IMO, This also makes no sense. Combat Challenge and Superiority work better when you're in the vicinity of other PC's... not when you're off on your own trying to be a striker. </p><p> </p><p>IME If the fighter isn't close to one of his allies then he isn't making the monster use up extra movement and/or stopping him (via Combat Superiority) form attacking said allies (you know, his job)... and he also isn't making the monster choose between taking the -2 and an extra attack by him vs. a squishier opponent and lower AC (via Combat Challenge).</p><p> </p><p>Now I guess if the DM always clumps a bunch of monsters together then yeah it's great to go running into the crowd... or if your DM always provides a choke point then yes by all means take it, but these aren't factors the fighter controls.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 5906660, member: 48965"] This makes no sense as an analogy... you're comparing one 1st level spell to one of the Fighter's class abilities. IMO, This also makes no sense. Combat Challenge and Superiority work better when you're in the vicinity of other PC's... not when you're off on your own trying to be a striker. IME If the fighter isn't close to one of his allies then he isn't making the monster use up extra movement and/or stopping him (via Combat Superiority) form attacking said allies (you know, his job)... and he also isn't making the monster choose between taking the -2 and an extra attack by him vs. a squishier opponent and lower AC (via Combat Challenge). Now I guess if the DM always clumps a bunch of monsters together then yeah it's great to go running into the crowd... or if your DM always provides a choke point then yes by all means take it, but these aren't factors the fighter controls. [/QUOTE]
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