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When Fiends Attack: Are Balors, Pit Fiends and Ultraloths too weak?
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<blockquote data-quote="Variss" data-source="post: 7007366" data-attributes="member: 76149"><p>I believe the design intent goes to your first theory. However, that's an aftershock of so many editions where the power curve is just ungraceful after 12th level. At this point in 5th Edition, I have DM'd or played in three campaigns going the full path to 20th level. Bounded Accuracy works exactly as it says on the tin. Resource consumption is still significant at higher level challenges, though many of those challenges have to be home-brewed using the monster tables in the DMG as there is a dearth in the MM. Spell usage is less than other editions, and attunement keeps the magic items toned down as long as the DM isn't Monty Haul. </p><p></p><p>The Greater Fiends are not nearly as scary as they were. I believe the 1st Edition Arcanaloth was a 22nd level Wizard on top of fiendish abilities. No one wanted to ever be on the same plane as an Ultraloth. Even in the cosmopolitan Planescape setting, fiends and celestials of name rank were not to be messed with unless you knew the dark of it. Since I have a fondness for Yugoloths as the great movers and shakers of evil, I have up-statted nearly all of them, back-filling the lower and mid CR's with lesser known fiends that are at least mildly intelligent enough to be a BBEG or later, a Lieutenant in a greater fiend's plot.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Variss, post: 7007366, member: 76149"] I believe the design intent goes to your first theory. However, that's an aftershock of so many editions where the power curve is just ungraceful after 12th level. At this point in 5th Edition, I have DM'd or played in three campaigns going the full path to 20th level. Bounded Accuracy works exactly as it says on the tin. Resource consumption is still significant at higher level challenges, though many of those challenges have to be home-brewed using the monster tables in the DMG as there is a dearth in the MM. Spell usage is less than other editions, and attunement keeps the magic items toned down as long as the DM isn't Monty Haul. The Greater Fiends are not nearly as scary as they were. I believe the 1st Edition Arcanaloth was a 22nd level Wizard on top of fiendish abilities. No one wanted to ever be on the same plane as an Ultraloth. Even in the cosmopolitan Planescape setting, fiends and celestials of name rank were not to be messed with unless you knew the dark of it. Since I have a fondness for Yugoloths as the great movers and shakers of evil, I have up-statted nearly all of them, back-filling the lower and mid CR's with lesser known fiends that are at least mildly intelligent enough to be a BBEG or later, a Lieutenant in a greater fiend's plot. [/QUOTE]
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