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When Fiends Attack: Are Balors, Pit Fiends and Ultraloths too weak?
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<blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 7007384" data-attributes="member: 59057"><p>I am really not sure if they indeed underperform if you dmtake magic items out of the comparisons and remember what challenge rating means regarding 5e. And for fighting classes there is not so much in dpr gain after level 11.</p><p>Also to build encounters, party size is a factor and non legendary monsters just need a few low level friends to be a lot more threatening.</p><p></p><p>Some things could be better in the MM. I miss some abilities monsters used to have that would indeed would help them fend off low level threats in a white room. Regeneration of the tarrasque comes to mind.</p><p>So using xp as guidelines you should be able to fight a single fiend way before level 19 or 20. Then again, using its mobility it can easily one shot the squishier adventurers at level 9. That is what CR really mean in that edition. I still wish we had a different metric than CR. Monster level of the playtest was more to my taste.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UngeheuerLich, post: 7007384, member: 59057"] I am really not sure if they indeed underperform if you dmtake magic items out of the comparisons and remember what challenge rating means regarding 5e. And for fighting classes there is not so much in dpr gain after level 11. Also to build encounters, party size is a factor and non legendary monsters just need a few low level friends to be a lot more threatening. Some things could be better in the MM. I miss some abilities monsters used to have that would indeed would help them fend off low level threats in a white room. Regeneration of the tarrasque comes to mind. So using xp as guidelines you should be able to fight a single fiend way before level 19 or 20. Then again, using its mobility it can easily one shot the squishier adventurers at level 9. That is what CR really mean in that edition. I still wish we had a different metric than CR. Monster level of the playtest was more to my taste. [/QUOTE]
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