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Where does optimizing end and min-maxing begin? And is min-maxing a bad thing?
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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 7079980" data-attributes="member: 284"><p>I think it's a vocal minority of players that create this perception, and comes down to two things, described in very broad terms as: a feeling of being judged as "inferior" in some way because you aren't measuring up to the other side, and/or seeing the other side as belittling the playstyle you prefer. So you return the favor. </p><p></p><p>If I'm mainly a combat optimizer and not so good at the social side, I unconsciously feel like I don't measure up in the social stuff and my character is seen as "the dumb thug" who is useless outside of combat. </p><p></p><p>If I'm mainly a RP and story optimizer, I feel like I'm just a drag on the party when combat occurs and I also think the combat monsters are judging me and looking down on my "useless" character. </p><p></p><p>This isn't everybody by a long shot, but the minority of people who fall mainly into one category or the other tend to be the most vocal about trashing the other side. Because "F- you, I'm not useless, you're useless. And your play style is badwrong fun anyway." </p><p></p><p>In organized play (RPGA, Pathfinder, Adventure League) there is often a perception that the combat min/maxer's have the upper hand due to the frequent combats and limited time (four hours) to play each module. This tends to exacerbate the problem.</p><p></p><p>If you mainly play with a stable group in a long running campaign you may never experience these issues except on forum and facebook posts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 7079980, member: 284"] I think it's a vocal minority of players that create this perception, and comes down to two things, described in very broad terms as: a feeling of being judged as "inferior" in some way because you aren't measuring up to the other side, and/or seeing the other side as belittling the playstyle you prefer. So you return the favor. If I'm mainly a combat optimizer and not so good at the social side, I unconsciously feel like I don't measure up in the social stuff and my character is seen as "the dumb thug" who is useless outside of combat. If I'm mainly a RP and story optimizer, I feel like I'm just a drag on the party when combat occurs and I also think the combat monsters are judging me and looking down on my "useless" character. This isn't everybody by a long shot, but the minority of people who fall mainly into one category or the other tend to be the most vocal about trashing the other side. Because "F- you, I'm not useless, you're useless. And your play style is badwrong fun anyway." In organized play (RPGA, Pathfinder, Adventure League) there is often a perception that the combat min/maxer's have the upper hand due to the frequent combats and limited time (four hours) to play each module. This tends to exacerbate the problem. If you mainly play with a stable group in a long running campaign you may never experience these issues except on forum and facebook posts. [/QUOTE]
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