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<blockquote data-quote="tomBitonti" data-source="post: 6255960" data-attributes="member: 13107"><p>Yeah. Short term, a base or colony will absolutely need support from the Earth. And could be supported for some time as a strict dependent of supplies from Earth.</p><p></p><p>The question is, can a base or colony <em>ever</em> remove that dependence. Turned around, will a base or colony (or group of bases and colonies) ever be self sufficient? Or rather, able to survive with only the resources available in space.</p><p></p><p>There is a lot out there: The moon, asteroids, comets, sunlight, micro-gravity; raw materials and energy seem to be available in abundance. But, there is also a lot of huge challenges: Radiation; micro-gravity; vacuum; vast distances; gravity wells.</p><p></p><p>My argument is mostly simply a conservative / hedging one: Until we <em>try</em> pretty hard to build bases and habitats, we really can't say that these will ever be sustainable. That's coming from a background in software, where there are often very optimistic outlooks, which turn out to be quite naive. Also, that is considering that (arguably) we can't even achieve sustainability here on the Earth. Maybe, we don't really try here on the Earth because we haven't yet been forced. On the other hand, maybe, a lot of selection must be done before behaviors are narrowed to sustainable ones; or, our current civilization model just isn't sustainable. Then, if we aren't close to sustainability here on the Earth, we seem to be rather far from achieving it in space.</p><p></p><p>Thx!</p><p></p><p>TomB</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tomBitonti, post: 6255960, member: 13107"] Yeah. Short term, a base or colony will absolutely need support from the Earth. And could be supported for some time as a strict dependent of supplies from Earth. The question is, can a base or colony [i]ever[/i] remove that dependence. Turned around, will a base or colony (or group of bases and colonies) ever be self sufficient? Or rather, able to survive with only the resources available in space. There is a lot out there: The moon, asteroids, comets, sunlight, micro-gravity; raw materials and energy seem to be available in abundance. But, there is also a lot of huge challenges: Radiation; micro-gravity; vacuum; vast distances; gravity wells. My argument is mostly simply a conservative / hedging one: Until we [i]try[/i] pretty hard to build bases and habitats, we really can't say that these will ever be sustainable. That's coming from a background in software, where there are often very optimistic outlooks, which turn out to be quite naive. Also, that is considering that (arguably) we can't even achieve sustainability here on the Earth. Maybe, we don't really try here on the Earth because we haven't yet been forced. On the other hand, maybe, a lot of selection must be done before behaviors are narrowed to sustainable ones; or, our current civilization model just isn't sustainable. Then, if we aren't close to sustainability here on the Earth, we seem to be rather far from achieving it in space. Thx! TomB [/QUOTE]
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