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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5840019" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Sorry, but not everyone played the earlier versions of the game like you did.</p><p></p><p>I've seen Dexterity as a primary stat for Fighters in 2E. A 16 Dex was +1 to hit whereas a 16 Strength was +0 to hit. A Fighter could walk around with an 8 Strength in 2E and there wasn't much difference between that and a 15 except for the weight of armor. Encumbrance only affected movement rate, so low Strength fighters were viable.</p><p></p><p>1E and 2E (shy of house rules) used dice rolling for ability scores. So, one couldn't guarantee a great primary, a good secondary, and an ok tertiary score like in point buy. Lots of PCs had one good score and a few similar secondary scores. Since Dex affected AC and gave a better to hit, some fighters put in higher Dex than Con and sometimes higher Dex than Str.</p><p></p><p>I ran a ranged specialist Fighter that did this. There was another Fighter in the group, so my PC hung back and fired arrows. Not so much to do damage, but mostly to target spell casters and other ranged foes, and to be a secondary line if we got surrounded. He'd come up and hold a line if necessary, but that wasn't his shtick. Ironically, he died in melee (the thing I tried to keep him out of) getting attacked by 3 trolls because the fighter next to him got knocked back and prone in a corridor (we used knockback/knockdown houserules in those days) and it didn't occur to me to have my PC back up to reform the line, so one troll moved in next to him and the other two attacked from in front. Oops.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5840019, member: 2011"] Sorry, but not everyone played the earlier versions of the game like you did. I've seen Dexterity as a primary stat for Fighters in 2E. A 16 Dex was +1 to hit whereas a 16 Strength was +0 to hit. A Fighter could walk around with an 8 Strength in 2E and there wasn't much difference between that and a 15 except for the weight of armor. Encumbrance only affected movement rate, so low Strength fighters were viable. 1E and 2E (shy of house rules) used dice rolling for ability scores. So, one couldn't guarantee a great primary, a good secondary, and an ok tertiary score like in point buy. Lots of PCs had one good score and a few similar secondary scores. Since Dex affected AC and gave a better to hit, some fighters put in higher Dex than Con and sometimes higher Dex than Str. I ran a ranged specialist Fighter that did this. There was another Fighter in the group, so my PC hung back and fired arrows. Not so much to do damage, but mostly to target spell casters and other ranged foes, and to be a secondary line if we got surrounded. He'd come up and hold a line if necessary, but that wasn't his shtick. Ironically, he died in melee (the thing I tried to keep him out of) getting attacked by 3 trolls because the fighter next to him got knocked back and prone in a corridor (we used knockback/knockdown houserules in those days) and it didn't occur to me to have my PC back up to reform the line, so one troll moved in next to him and the other two attacked from in front. Oops. [/QUOTE]
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