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<blockquote data-quote="Harzel" data-source="post: 7269826" data-attributes="member: 6857506"><p>Well, I think people do; what has been a source of contention in this thread is the relative popularity and impact of LoTR prior to the late 70s, compared in particular to swords and sorcery ala Howard and Lieber. Much of people's initial response seems to hinge on personal experience. I was in junior high / high school in the late 60s and in my social milieu LoTR fandom utterly swamped the preceding interest in other fantasy. Others who encountered Tolkien later seem unconvinced that that experience was representative of the broader situation. I've made a modest attempt to find quantitative data on the subject, but anything really satisfactory has eluded my nontrivial, but also not extensive attempts.</p><p></p><p>One can easily find this about LoTR.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Also, that that was the first in a series of publication of fantasy works by Ballantine that appears to have led to the establishment of its Ballantine Adult Fantasy brand.</p><p></p><p>There is the occasional unsupported and unquantified (but perhaps authoritative?) assertion such as</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Although from the same source</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which publication of Tolkien this refers to and what "signs of vigour" means is left in doubt. The whole article is <a href="http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/sword_and_sorcery" target="_blank">here</a>.</p><p></p><p>Quantification of the popularity of S&S in the 60s and early 70s probably exists, but is not, at least by me, easily found.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harzel, post: 7269826, member: 6857506"] Well, I think people do; what has been a source of contention in this thread is the relative popularity and impact of LoTR prior to the late 70s, compared in particular to swords and sorcery ala Howard and Lieber. Much of people's initial response seems to hinge on personal experience. I was in junior high / high school in the late 60s and in my social milieu LoTR fandom utterly swamped the preceding interest in other fantasy. Others who encountered Tolkien later seem unconvinced that that experience was representative of the broader situation. I've made a modest attempt to find quantitative data on the subject, but anything really satisfactory has eluded my nontrivial, but also not extensive attempts. One can easily find this about LoTR. Also, that that was the first in a series of publication of fantasy works by Ballantine that appears to have led to the establishment of its Ballantine Adult Fantasy brand. There is the occasional unsupported and unquantified (but perhaps authoritative?) assertion such as Although from the same source Which publication of Tolkien this refers to and what "signs of vigour" means is left in doubt. The whole article is [URL="http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/sword_and_sorcery"]here[/URL]. Quantification of the popularity of S&S in the 60s and early 70s probably exists, but is not, at least by me, easily found. [/QUOTE]
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