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<blockquote data-quote="trappedslider" data-source="post: 6285357" data-attributes="member: 41932"><p>WoW..thats the frist person I've come arvoss that didn't like the TDK trio....many of the praises i have heard are due to the fact that Nolan wove in a number of different comic story lines to make each movie :</p><p></p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Begins - <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/BatmanYearOne" target="_blank">Batman: Year One</a> (Bruce's origin mirrors that particular version, Commissioner Loeb, Carmine Falcone, Detective Flass), <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/TheLongHalloween" target="_blank">The Long Halloween</a> (the idea of Batman, the police, and the DA's office presenting a united front; Scarecrow's appearance; Carmine Falcone's downfall), andContagion (Ra's Al Ghul tries to spread a plague across Gotham). The Man Who Falls was also cited as an influence.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dark Knight - <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/TheKillingJoke" target="_blank">The Killing Joke</a> (Joker tries to make someone go crazy, Joker's multiple origins), <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/TheLongHalloween" target="_blank">The Long Halloween</a> (Dent gets disfigured and goes on a rampage, supervillains begin to take over the mob's place), <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/DarkVictory" target="_blank">Dark Victory</a> (Commissioner Loeb dies), <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/BatmanYearOne" target="_blank">Batman: Year One</a> (Gordon's family put at risk in the end), and Joker's original story from Batman #1/The Man Who Laughs (Joker arrives in Gotham and starts killing people). According to Steve Englehart, Nolan also cannibalised <a href="http://www.steveenglehart.com/Film/Dark%20Knight%20movie.html" target="_blank">elements of Dark Detective and its unpublished sequel<img src="http://static.mediatropes.info/pmwiki/pub/external_link.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rises - Vengeance of Bane (Bane's origin is used for Talia, King Snake is substituted for Ra's) <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Knightfall" target="_blank">Knightfall</a> (Bane shows up and breaks Batman's back),<a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheDarkKnightReturns" target="_blank">The Dark Knight Returns</a> (an older Batman comes back to fight crime, Gotham is under a nuclear threat, Batman fakes his death), Son of the Demon(Batman gets involved with Talia Al Ghul), <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand" target="_blank">No Man's Land</a> (Gotham gets blocked off from the rest of the US and declared a disaster area), Legacy (Bane and Talia working together), <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/BatmanTheCult" target="_blank">The Cult</a> (An underground group of criminals take over Gotham, Gordon is put in the hospital as a result of trying to confront them), again, <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/BatmanYearOne" target="_blank">Batman: Year One</a> (Catwoman's origins). There might also be a subtle inclusion of <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond" target="_blank">Batman Beyond</a> (A younger man prepped to take Batman's mantle after he resigns towards the end).</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="trappedslider, post: 6285357, member: 41932"] WoW..thats the frist person I've come arvoss that didn't like the TDK trio....many of the praises i have heard are due to the fact that Nolan wove in a number of different comic story lines to make each movie : [LIST] [*]Begins - [URL="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/BatmanYearOne"]Batman: Year One[/URL] (Bruce's origin mirrors that particular version, Commissioner Loeb, Carmine Falcone, Detective Flass), [URL="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/TheLongHalloween"]The Long Halloween[/URL] (the idea of Batman, the police, and the DA's office presenting a united front; Scarecrow's appearance; Carmine Falcone's downfall), andContagion (Ra's Al Ghul tries to spread a plague across Gotham). The Man Who Falls was also cited as an influence. [*]Dark Knight - [URL="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/TheKillingJoke"]The Killing Joke[/URL] (Joker tries to make someone go crazy, Joker's multiple origins), [URL="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/TheLongHalloween"]The Long Halloween[/URL] (Dent gets disfigured and goes on a rampage, supervillains begin to take over the mob's place), [URL="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/DarkVictory"]Dark Victory[/URL] (Commissioner Loeb dies), [URL="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/BatmanYearOne"]Batman: Year One[/URL] (Gordon's family put at risk in the end), and Joker's original story from Batman #1/The Man Who Laughs (Joker arrives in Gotham and starts killing people). According to Steve Englehart, Nolan also cannibalised [URL="http://www.steveenglehart.com/Film/Dark%20Knight%20movie.html"]elements of Dark Detective and its unpublished sequel[IMG]http://static.mediatropes.info/pmwiki/pub/external_link.gif[/IMG][/URL] [*]Rises - Vengeance of Bane (Bane's origin is used for Talia, King Snake is substituted for Ra's) [URL="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Knightfall"]Knightfall[/URL] (Bane shows up and breaks Batman's back),[URL="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheDarkKnightReturns"]The Dark Knight Returns[/URL] (an older Batman comes back to fight crime, Gotham is under a nuclear threat, Batman fakes his death), Son of the Demon(Batman gets involved with Talia Al Ghul), [URL="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand"]No Man's Land[/URL] (Gotham gets blocked off from the rest of the US and declared a disaster area), Legacy (Bane and Talia working together), [URL="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/BatmanTheCult"]The Cult[/URL] (An underground group of criminals take over Gotham, Gordon is put in the hospital as a result of trying to confront them), again, [URL="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/BatmanYearOne"]Batman: Year One[/URL] (Catwoman's origins). There might also be a subtle inclusion of [URL="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond"]Batman Beyond[/URL] (A younger man prepped to take Batman's mantle after he resigns towards the end). [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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