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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6285451" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I'm not sure which era you mean as 'early'. The Joker in his first appearance in Batman #1 is a wise cracking smooth criminal with a morbid sense of humor - and also a murderous psychopath. In fact, if you read Batman #1 you'll be less struck by how the character of the Joker has morphed than you will of the Batman. The early blue suited Batman trades puns back and forth with the Joker as often as he trades punches. Batman has yet to evolve his straight man persona, Joker has yet to evolve the notion that this is some sort of contest between him and Batman, and Batman despite campy puns has yet to evolve the notion that he can't take life.</p><p></p><p>I don't believe you've captured the Joker until he is both funny and disturbing. His ability to be both charming and menancing, and ultimately, his ability to mock us for consuming violent entertainment with Joker almost the incarnation of violent entertainment, is what's so intriguing about him as a villain. The Joker plays on the borders of being an anti-villain, then disgusts us that we'd ever rooted for him.</p><p></p><p>The only scene in the movie where they get the Joker right is the scene with the pencil, at its only about 6 seconds long.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6285451, member: 4937"] I'm not sure which era you mean as 'early'. The Joker in his first appearance in Batman #1 is a wise cracking smooth criminal with a morbid sense of humor - and also a murderous psychopath. In fact, if you read Batman #1 you'll be less struck by how the character of the Joker has morphed than you will of the Batman. The early blue suited Batman trades puns back and forth with the Joker as often as he trades punches. Batman has yet to evolve his straight man persona, Joker has yet to evolve the notion that this is some sort of contest between him and Batman, and Batman despite campy puns has yet to evolve the notion that he can't take life. I don't believe you've captured the Joker until he is both funny and disturbing. His ability to be both charming and menancing, and ultimately, his ability to mock us for consuming violent entertainment with Joker almost the incarnation of violent entertainment, is what's so intriguing about him as a villain. The Joker plays on the borders of being an anti-villain, then disgusts us that we'd ever rooted for him. The only scene in the movie where they get the Joker right is the scene with the pencil, at its only about 6 seconds long. [/QUOTE]
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