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<blockquote data-quote="Illithidbix" data-source="post: 6841327" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p><em>(The Goliath can be found in the Elemental Evil Player' Companion PDF here: <a href="http://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/dnd/EE_PlayersCompanionv2.pdf" target="_blank">http://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/dnd/EE_PlayersCompanionv2.pdf</a> )</em></p><p></p><p>I don't massively dislike Goliath's and have considered playing them but...</p><p></p><p><strong>Mechanically they're not astounding</strong></p><p></p><p>Powerful Build and Mountain Born feel a little bit irrelevant</p><p></p><p>+2 STR and +1 CON = Not bad, but Half Orcs provide that and Mountain Dwarfs do better with +2 STR, +2 CON.</p><p></p><p>Proficiency in Athletics, definitely useful, but mostly to be thought of as "an extra skill" since if you're picking Goliath as a race, chances are you'd take Athletics anyhow.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So in terms of pure mechanical benefit I think I'd rather go for Darkvision, Relentless Endurance and Savage Attacks from Half Orc instead.... or Mountain Dwarf.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In terms of background, character and theme... </p><p></p><p>Most D&D races are fundamentally "humans in prosthetic and funny hats" with cultures that aren't really very alien at all. </p><p>Now this actually mostly serves to make roleplaying a lot easier rather than working out what an levitating jellyfish without a conception of an individual would be thinking in any given moment.</p><p></p><p>... But Goliaths do seem particularly indistinct from a human tribe who lives at the top of mountains and value physical competence and competition.</p><p>Arguably this isn't a awful thing, as I tend to prefer playing humans so I don't feel like I have to adopt or consciously discard that culture baggage that comes with the race.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Illithidbix, post: 6841327, member: 12283"] [i](The Goliath can be found in the Elemental Evil Player' Companion PDF here: [url]http://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/dnd/EE_PlayersCompanionv2.pdf[/url] )[/i] I don't massively dislike Goliath's and have considered playing them but... [b]Mechanically they're not astounding[/b] Powerful Build and Mountain Born feel a little bit irrelevant +2 STR and +1 CON = Not bad, but Half Orcs provide that and Mountain Dwarfs do better with +2 STR, +2 CON. Proficiency in Athletics, definitely useful, but mostly to be thought of as "an extra skill" since if you're picking Goliath as a race, chances are you'd take Athletics anyhow. So in terms of pure mechanical benefit I think I'd rather go for Darkvision, Relentless Endurance and Savage Attacks from Half Orc instead.... or Mountain Dwarf. In terms of background, character and theme... Most D&D races are fundamentally "humans in prosthetic and funny hats" with cultures that aren't really very alien at all. Now this actually mostly serves to make roleplaying a lot easier rather than working out what an levitating jellyfish without a conception of an individual would be thinking in any given moment. ... But Goliaths do seem particularly indistinct from a human tribe who lives at the top of mountains and value physical competence and competition. Arguably this isn't a awful thing, as I tend to prefer playing humans so I don't feel like I have to adopt or consciously discard that culture baggage that comes with the race. [/QUOTE]
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