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<blockquote data-quote="Zimri" data-source="post: 4746204" data-attributes="member: 15991"><p>Except that we can't prove a sale of anything has been lost. In fact according to how most people on enworld (a fairly decent sample I would say) Did not, and would not pirate. I take them at their word on this as I find no reason not to. The people that did download the PDFs likely never would have bought a PDF from wotc. And hardcopy provides (in my opinion at any rate) much more usability than gaming at a table with 6 laptops.</p><p></p><p>The IP owner has also lost nothing. they still have as many widgets as they had prior, I didn't cause them to become non transferable or unusable, or cause them to go away. They can still sell to those that want to buy from them. Which again looking at the numbers here is as reasonably close to everyone in your market as you are likely to get.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes if you steal my car, and I can no longer use it I am of course denied the use and benefit of said car. If you make a copy of my car but leave my car there I am not denied it's use or the benefits of said car.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My anecdotal evidence says otherwise and well quite frankly I trust what I have experienced more than I trust what you have experienced.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No permanent is a real word with a real definition if the law means something else the law darn well better say something else.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then why are joy riding and grand theft auto two different crimes with different penalties ?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes yes it is and this discussion is just for fun. I am not going to change your mind (and that was never my intent) and you aren't going to change mine. </p><p></p><p>I get where you and WOTC are coming from. And I understand why you as an IP lawyer have seeing things one way ingrained into you. I also see bands that thrive because people download songs for free THEN go to concerts and by CDs, DVDs, and memorabilia because they liked what they saw/heard. Heck every month I plop down 24 dollars to see an act I could watch a week later for free on youtube put there by the performers. I also know for a fact that in my circle MORE books get bought after we see what we would be getting because lugging around laptops is anathema to our gaming table, but hey we wouldn't have bought PDFs any way unless they were very inexpensive. </p><p></p><p>We may have to stop talking about pirates now seeing as how the US military is currently involved with pirates off the coast of Africa... Wouldn't want to break the politics rule.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zimri, post: 4746204, member: 15991"] Except that we can't prove a sale of anything has been lost. In fact according to how most people on enworld (a fairly decent sample I would say) Did not, and would not pirate. I take them at their word on this as I find no reason not to. The people that did download the PDFs likely never would have bought a PDF from wotc. And hardcopy provides (in my opinion at any rate) much more usability than gaming at a table with 6 laptops. The IP owner has also lost nothing. they still have as many widgets as they had prior, I didn't cause them to become non transferable or unusable, or cause them to go away. They can still sell to those that want to buy from them. Which again looking at the numbers here is as reasonably close to everyone in your market as you are likely to get. Yes if you steal my car, and I can no longer use it I am of course denied the use and benefit of said car. If you make a copy of my car but leave my car there I am not denied it's use or the benefits of said car. My anecdotal evidence says otherwise and well quite frankly I trust what I have experienced more than I trust what you have experienced. No permanent is a real word with a real definition if the law means something else the law darn well better say something else. Then why are joy riding and grand theft auto two different crimes with different penalties ? Yes yes it is and this discussion is just for fun. I am not going to change your mind (and that was never my intent) and you aren't going to change mine. I get where you and WOTC are coming from. And I understand why you as an IP lawyer have seeing things one way ingrained into you. I also see bands that thrive because people download songs for free THEN go to concerts and by CDs, DVDs, and memorabilia because they liked what they saw/heard. Heck every month I plop down 24 dollars to see an act I could watch a week later for free on youtube put there by the performers. I also know for a fact that in my circle MORE books get bought after we see what we would be getting because lugging around laptops is anathema to our gaming table, but hey we wouldn't have bought PDFs any way unless they were very inexpensive. We may have to stop talking about pirates now seeing as how the US military is currently involved with pirates off the coast of Africa... Wouldn't want to break the politics rule. [/QUOTE]
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