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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7149080" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>Well, that was mature.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree that it makes no sense. It makes perfect sense that good religions in a polytheistic society that have no portfolios in conflict would engage in religious conflict. It would be entirely political and competition for for followers.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I don't see how any of that matters. It applies to just about any story out there. A group of highway robbers could be replaced by orc marauders. Kings could be replaced by a councils. </p><p></p><p>When it comes to demons and devils vs. gods, gods are not only more powerful, but they are more expansive in what they cover and more rigidly bound. Demons and devils don't have portfolios. While Orcus like undead and has a lot of power over them, he does not have nearly the breadth of coverage that a god of the undead has, nor is he going to have the same interest in spreading undeath or protecting undead that aren't under his direct power that the god would have. Orcus is also capable of doing just about whatever he wants, whenever he wants to. The god of undeath has to spend pretty much all of his time focused on his portfolios. He's a cosmic force with a job. Orcus isn't.</p><p></p><p>The demon/devil lords and gods may have the little bit of overlap you mention, but they can't truly replace the evil gods without becoming the gods. Trying to replace the gods without becoming them would be like 7-11 trying to replace Walmart while retaining the same size and breadth of items offered.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's what the angels are for. The Solars counter the demon lords, and so on. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because of the reasons D&D has set forth that I find quite satisfactory, but for some reason you don't. The cosmos requires demons and devils, so they stay.</p><p></p><p></p><p>AO has nothing to do with it, other than to punish the gods who step out of line and forget their place. You are also misportraying the situation. It's not gods vs. demons. It's angels vs. demons. The gods are vs. other gods that oppose their portfolios. It's balanced just fine.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A few reasons. One is numbers. If she tried that she would succeed once or twice, then the rest would gang up and destroy her since she's a lesser goddess. Two, she has become a goddess with portfolios and has basically joined the other club. While she is called the demon queen of spiders, she is no longer a demon lord(I'm not even sure she ever was a demon lord). She is a goddess bound like other other gods are to focus on her portfolios.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7149080, member: 23751"] Well, that was mature. I disagree that it makes no sense. It makes perfect sense that good religions in a polytheistic society that have no portfolios in conflict would engage in religious conflict. It would be entirely political and competition for for followers. I don't see how any of that matters. It applies to just about any story out there. A group of highway robbers could be replaced by orc marauders. Kings could be replaced by a councils. When it comes to demons and devils vs. gods, gods are not only more powerful, but they are more expansive in what they cover and more rigidly bound. Demons and devils don't have portfolios. While Orcus like undead and has a lot of power over them, he does not have nearly the breadth of coverage that a god of the undead has, nor is he going to have the same interest in spreading undeath or protecting undead that aren't under his direct power that the god would have. Orcus is also capable of doing just about whatever he wants, whenever he wants to. The god of undeath has to spend pretty much all of his time focused on his portfolios. He's a cosmic force with a job. Orcus isn't. The demon/devil lords and gods may have the little bit of overlap you mention, but they can't truly replace the evil gods without becoming the gods. Trying to replace the gods without becoming them would be like 7-11 trying to replace Walmart while retaining the same size and breadth of items offered. That's what the angels are for. The Solars counter the demon lords, and so on. Because of the reasons D&D has set forth that I find quite satisfactory, but for some reason you don't. The cosmos requires demons and devils, so they stay. AO has nothing to do with it, other than to punish the gods who step out of line and forget their place. You are also misportraying the situation. It's not gods vs. demons. It's angels vs. demons. The gods are vs. other gods that oppose their portfolios. It's balanced just fine. A few reasons. One is numbers. If she tried that she would succeed once or twice, then the rest would gang up and destroy her since she's a lesser goddess. Two, she has become a goddess with portfolios and has basically joined the other club. While she is called the demon queen of spiders, she is no longer a demon lord(I'm not even sure she ever was a demon lord). She is a goddess bound like other other gods are to focus on her portfolios. [/QUOTE]
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