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<blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 1705935" data-attributes="member: 22882"><p><em>I'm</em> trolling? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /> </p><p></p><p>In any case, there isn't an <em>ideological</em> connection between the intensely secular, extremely anti-Christian Nazi party and its anti-Semitic activities and Christian anti-Semitism (I prefer to be precise and not use this term, which implies ethnic rather than religiously-grounded hatred, but...).</p><p></p><p>Was there a ready ground for Nazi anti-Semitism because German Protestantism carries a strong anti-Judaic undercurrent? Presumably.</p><p></p><p>Does that make Nazi anti-Semitism ideologically connected? Not necessarily.</p><p></p><p>Both extremely religious Quakers and many extremely irreligious internationalists abhor military action of any sort. One does so on religious grounds, the other on secular grounds. They agree on the result. One might even be inclined to support the other to achieve the same result. They do not, however, have any ideological connection beyond their objective.</p><p></p><p>Now, in the post-war years, a convergence of ethnic and religious anti-Semitism seems to have occurred. It's seen in European and American fringe groups and, much more noticeably, in the Islamic world. The combination doesn't really make much sense, but fanatics rarely do. It has certainly caused much harm, although thankfully not, to date, as much as purely secular anti-Semitism did.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that I never said anything in <em>defense</em> of religious anti-Semitism; my objective here was to clarify <em>definitions</em>. Nor, to be sure, would I deny the role of religion in 20th-century Western life (although its role in Western Europe has been in decline since before WW1).</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind also that I've studied WW2 and the period leading up to it principally as they relate to WW1. As such, I won't pretend to be an expert on the average's German citizen's opinions in the 1930s. Certainly Germany's intellectual community, one of the hotbeds of Nazism in the '30s, found it appealing more for its secular, eugenicist elements and its connection to Wagner and Nietzsche.</p><p></p><p>And BTW... this thread is really long, huh? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoogleEmpMog, post: 1705935, member: 22882"] [I]I'm[/I] trolling? :uhoh: In any case, there isn't an [I]ideological[/I] connection between the intensely secular, extremely anti-Christian Nazi party and its anti-Semitic activities and Christian anti-Semitism (I prefer to be precise and not use this term, which implies ethnic rather than religiously-grounded hatred, but...). Was there a ready ground for Nazi anti-Semitism because German Protestantism carries a strong anti-Judaic undercurrent? Presumably. Does that make Nazi anti-Semitism ideologically connected? Not necessarily. Both extremely religious Quakers and many extremely irreligious internationalists abhor military action of any sort. One does so on religious grounds, the other on secular grounds. They agree on the result. One might even be inclined to support the other to achieve the same result. They do not, however, have any ideological connection beyond their objective. Now, in the post-war years, a convergence of ethnic and religious anti-Semitism seems to have occurred. It's seen in European and American fringe groups and, much more noticeably, in the Islamic world. The combination doesn't really make much sense, but fanatics rarely do. It has certainly caused much harm, although thankfully not, to date, as much as purely secular anti-Semitism did. Keep in mind that I never said anything in [I]defense[/I] of religious anti-Semitism; my objective here was to clarify [I]definitions[/I]. Nor, to be sure, would I deny the role of religion in 20th-century Western life (although its role in Western Europe has been in decline since before WW1). Keep in mind also that I've studied WW2 and the period leading up to it principally as they relate to WW1. As such, I won't pretend to be an expert on the average's German citizen's opinions in the 1930s. Certainly Germany's intellectual community, one of the hotbeds of Nazism in the '30s, found it appealing more for its secular, eugenicist elements and its connection to Wagner and Nietzsche. And BTW... this thread is really long, huh? ;) [/QUOTE]
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