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<blockquote data-quote="Jimbro" data-source="post: 6427138" data-attributes="member: 6777310"><p>Thanks for the feedback. I agree with you, the barbarian is doing what the barbarian should. Though I would contest/add to some of the things you say. I'm not trying to be combative, I just want to show the way I see it. Please, please keep the conversation going! That is valuable insight up top.</p><p></p><p>The barbarian doesn't have double HP with its resistances while raging. It is resistant to common damage types it might encounter, but magic will definitely penetrate that (unless you go totem of the bear at level 3, which is cool, but you give up extra attacks). Also the barbarian does get advantage, but at a cost with Reckless attack. As a bear the druid ACTUALLY gets more than double HP and two attacks, again at a cost of lower AC, though I think it's less of a cost, depending on the AC values of the druid and barbarian. Neither can cast spells in these forms (not that it matters for the barbarian unless he or she multiclasses).</p><p></p><p>While not raging, what does the barbarian have? Certainly not nothing, but compare to the druid, who has a butt ton of spells. Also when the barbarian rages twice (which lasts only a minute) at level two he's done. He gets more uses fast at level three. The Wild Shape ability you can use twice (which can last an hour or longer) and recharges after a SHORT rest.</p><p></p><p>That's why I feel that way. When I've seen the druid in action at low and at high level, it's been unbalanced. I'm hearing from a lot of players they don't agree, which is good to hear, but I'm hearing from a lot of DMs that they do agree. I guess we need to see more druid action in play!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jimbro, post: 6427138, member: 6777310"] Thanks for the feedback. I agree with you, the barbarian is doing what the barbarian should. Though I would contest/add to some of the things you say. I'm not trying to be combative, I just want to show the way I see it. Please, please keep the conversation going! That is valuable insight up top. The barbarian doesn't have double HP with its resistances while raging. It is resistant to common damage types it might encounter, but magic will definitely penetrate that (unless you go totem of the bear at level 3, which is cool, but you give up extra attacks). Also the barbarian does get advantage, but at a cost with Reckless attack. As a bear the druid ACTUALLY gets more than double HP and two attacks, again at a cost of lower AC, though I think it's less of a cost, depending on the AC values of the druid and barbarian. Neither can cast spells in these forms (not that it matters for the barbarian unless he or she multiclasses). While not raging, what does the barbarian have? Certainly not nothing, but compare to the druid, who has a butt ton of spells. Also when the barbarian rages twice (which lasts only a minute) at level two he's done. He gets more uses fast at level three. The Wild Shape ability you can use twice (which can last an hour or longer) and recharges after a SHORT rest. That's why I feel that way. When I've seen the druid in action at low and at high level, it's been unbalanced. I'm hearing from a lot of players they don't agree, which is good to hear, but I'm hearing from a lot of DMs that they do agree. I guess we need to see more druid action in play! [/QUOTE]
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