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With Respect to the Door and Expectations....The REAL Reason 5e Can't Unite the Base
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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 5978240" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>My concerns about the range still apply: namely, there are a whole bunch of posters on this and related threads (eg as best I can tell Mustrum_Ridcully, Crazy Jerome, Balesir, Campbell, Manbearcat, myself and others) who get left out of that range.</p><p></p><p>Well I could equally lament, as CJ did somewhere upthread (post 102), that after pages of posts and multiple threads there is still an apparent failure on the part of some to grasp what others are looking for in the game.</p><p></p><p>For example, your range assumes a "fluff vs crunch" contrast. And in the post I replied to you assumed that liking "crunch" is closely linked to wanting to win. But there is a playstyle which has nothing particularly to do within winning, and in which the "fluff vs crunch" contrat makes no sense. Almost by definition, that playstyle doesn't fit on your spectrum - but given that it is (in my view) one of the most natural playstyles to pursue using 4e, it is something that I think WotC needs to be looking at in the design of D&Dnext.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 5978240, member: 42582"] My concerns about the range still apply: namely, there are a whole bunch of posters on this and related threads (eg as best I can tell Mustrum_Ridcully, Crazy Jerome, Balesir, Campbell, Manbearcat, myself and others) who get left out of that range. Well I could equally lament, as CJ did somewhere upthread (post 102), that after pages of posts and multiple threads there is still an apparent failure on the part of some to grasp what others are looking for in the game. For example, your range assumes a "fluff vs crunch" contrast. And in the post I replied to you assumed that liking "crunch" is closely linked to wanting to win. But there is a playstyle which has nothing particularly to do within winning, and in which the "fluff vs crunch" contrat makes no sense. Almost by definition, that playstyle doesn't fit on your spectrum - but given that it is (in my view) one of the most natural playstyles to pursue using 4e, it is something that I think WotC needs to be looking at in the design of D&Dnext. [/QUOTE]
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