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With Respect to the Door and Expectations....The REAL Reason 5e Can't Unite the Base
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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 5980072" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>I'm with you up until here... Why does using the ride skill in a SC now encompass something totally different than it did in a single skill check... one's ability to ride? Isn't the process of escape exactly what is ebing defined by the use of skills, actions, powers, etc. by the players?</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Your failed ride roll only answers that question if it is the third failure of the SC... otherwise it doesn't answer the question of whether you have escaped or not. Thus what exactly is that roll telling you? IMO, nothing more that that particular task or action was successful or failed. It is a specific task that has been resolved within the SC...unless it is the final failure or final success... so why would you treat this roll, barring it satisfying one of those two conditions as anything other than task completion or failure?</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>The horse being there is not a property of having used the ride skill... If I had ran with Athletics and led the horse alongside me... I would still have a horse. Again, I feel like the reason I as a player choose ride vs. athletics is because I want to answer the question of how and link that to the result. It's not just about having the horse at the end, it's about the fiction of me riding away vs. the fiction of me running away.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Yeah I can get down with this, another question just for my own curiosity... do you feel 4e is more similar to BW/HW or L5R??</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 5980072, member: 48965"] I'm with you up until here... Why does using the ride skill in a SC now encompass something totally different than it did in a single skill check... one's ability to ride? Isn't the process of escape exactly what is ebing defined by the use of skills, actions, powers, etc. by the players? Your failed ride roll only answers that question if it is the third failure of the SC... otherwise it doesn't answer the question of whether you have escaped or not. Thus what exactly is that roll telling you? IMO, nothing more that that particular task or action was successful or failed. It is a specific task that has been resolved within the SC...unless it is the final failure or final success... so why would you treat this roll, barring it satisfying one of those two conditions as anything other than task completion or failure? The horse being there is not a property of having used the ride skill... If I had ran with Athletics and led the horse alongside me... I would still have a horse. Again, I feel like the reason I as a player choose ride vs. athletics is because I want to answer the question of how and link that to the result. It's not just about having the horse at the end, it's about the fiction of me riding away vs. the fiction of me running away. Yeah I can get down with this, another question just for my own curiosity... do you feel 4e is more similar to BW/HW or L5R?? [/QUOTE]
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