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<blockquote data-quote="Herschel" data-source="post: 5987929" data-attributes="member: 78357"><p>What you're not taking in to account is what WotC is actually reacting to: numbers. Companies don't react to whining, they react to their bottom line. If sales numbers are good, no amount of complaining gets noticed. </p><p> </p><p>WotC came out with 3E, a much more robust system than anything that had come before it in D&D. but a whole lot of Grognards said "we still love our old system, screw you" and WotC thought they should be getting better numbers of them than they were, even though they were also getting new gamers. </p><p> </p><p>Then they made a revision with 3.5 "Hey, we fixed stuff, it's even better now!" and those grognards along with a portion of their 3E customer base said "We have what we want, screw you". Even though they still gained new customers and even some lapsed gamers. It just wasn't working for them. </p><p> </p><p>Then they made 4E, trying to actually fix the problems inherent in D&D's system rather than a little duct tape and lipstick. And you know what? People liked it. A lot. Lapsed gamers and new players came to it in good numbers. </p><p> </p><p>And yet, many of those originals grognards, joined by a portion of the 3E and 3.5E fan base still said "We like what we have, screw you." This also was not working for WotC. D&D is the big name in teh game, they should have a stranglehold on the market. Why else did they buy the IP/brand? </p><p> </p><p>It also discounts (though just as part of the noise loop, not actual sales volume) how many people complained about 3E mechanics, then when Wotc said "Hey, look, we fixed them" turned around and cried "What? How dare you insult my game?!?!?!!!" It's akin to kid who complains "My mom is such a jerk" and his friend says "yeah" promptly "causing" the first kid to become irate, yelling "What did you say about my mother?"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herschel, post: 5987929, member: 78357"] What you're not taking in to account is what WotC is actually reacting to: numbers. Companies don't react to whining, they react to their bottom line. If sales numbers are good, no amount of complaining gets noticed. WotC came out with 3E, a much more robust system than anything that had come before it in D&D. but a whole lot of Grognards said "we still love our old system, screw you" and WotC thought they should be getting better numbers of them than they were, even though they were also getting new gamers. Then they made a revision with 3.5 "Hey, we fixed stuff, it's even better now!" and those grognards along with a portion of their 3E customer base said "We have what we want, screw you". Even though they still gained new customers and even some lapsed gamers. It just wasn't working for them. Then they made 4E, trying to actually fix the problems inherent in D&D's system rather than a little duct tape and lipstick. And you know what? People liked it. A lot. Lapsed gamers and new players came to it in good numbers. And yet, many of those originals grognards, joined by a portion of the 3E and 3.5E fan base still said "We like what we have, screw you." This also was not working for WotC. D&D is the big name in teh game, they should have a stranglehold on the market. Why else did they buy the IP/brand? It also discounts (though just as part of the noise loop, not actual sales volume) how many people complained about 3E mechanics, then when Wotc said "Hey, look, we fixed them" turned around and cried "What? How dare you insult my game?!?!?!!!" It's akin to kid who complains "My mom is such a jerk" and his friend says "yeah" promptly "causing" the first kid to become irate, yelling "What did you say about my mother?" [/QUOTE]
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