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With Respect to the Door and Expectations....The REAL Reason 5e Can't Unite the Base
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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 5991464" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>How much errata is the question (Of course I would argue that the developers and designers outright stating something isn't a new edition should hold some weight). I never argued 3.5 = essentials, so I'm not sure what you're point is in making that assertion. My argument is that, contrary to what the designers and developers actually stated in the books, and the fact that technically 3.5 coulod also be classified as just errata (which includes errata for classes) some people continue to claim that 3.5 was a new edition. Well then other people should have the right to claim essentials is a new edition since everyone is creating their own criteria. My personal belief is that neither is a new edition. IMO there seems to be alot more hipocrisy in the 4e players that claim 3.5 is a new edition... but essentials isn't.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>That's exactly what was denied by Lokiare in an earlier post...</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> And I'm sorry but changing the math of one class is not the same as changing the math on skills for every character in the game. In fact according to some of the criteria set in this thread, changing a class is what constitutes a new edition... so UA would be considered a new edition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 5991464, member: 48965"] How much errata is the question (Of course I would argue that the developers and designers outright stating something isn't a new edition should hold some weight). I never argued 3.5 = essentials, so I'm not sure what you're point is in making that assertion. My argument is that, contrary to what the designers and developers actually stated in the books, and the fact that technically 3.5 coulod also be classified as just errata (which includes errata for classes) some people continue to claim that 3.5 was a new edition. Well then other people should have the right to claim essentials is a new edition since everyone is creating their own criteria. My personal belief is that neither is a new edition. IMO there seems to be alot more hipocrisy in the 4e players that claim 3.5 is a new edition... but essentials isn't. That's exactly what was denied by Lokiare in an earlier post... And I'm sorry but changing the math of one class is not the same as changing the math on skills for every character in the game. In fact according to some of the criteria set in this thread, changing a class is what constitutes a new edition... so UA would be considered a new edition. [/QUOTE]
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