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With Respect to the Door and Expectations....The REAL Reason 5e Can't Unite the Base
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<blockquote data-quote="Emerikol" data-source="post: 5993851" data-attributes="member: 6698278"><p>First. Magic is made up and it only then becomes part of the D&D world. But D&D has an implied setting. Something thats common to almost all campaigns. Wizards memorize/prepare spells and cast them. Could it be different? Of course. It could be anything because it's magic. In D&D even there are classes that do it differently. But however classes do it that then becomes the standard for the world.</p><p></p><p>So a wizard who casts a fireball in a D&D world knows with certainty that he can't cast that fireball again. (He could memorize/prepare it twice of course but you get the point). It is a limitation that fits the reality of the world. There is no disconnect from the way the wizard is thinking and the player of that wizard.</p><p></p><p>On the flip side. In 4e, a fighter who did a daily power once at 10am doesn't realize he can't do it again. The player knows he can't. But the character is hoping another opportunity arises where he might use it. And the nature of some powers completely make this nonsensical. If I do "Come and Get It" once what in the world is the reason I can't do it again. The only reason is that that is the rule. There is no in world explanation.</p><p></p><p>And that is my issue. It's why I wouldn't have an issue with "Come and Get It" as an at-will power. It's not (necessarily) the power I have issue with. The frequency though is nonsensical. I do have issues with some powers but but hey that applies to all classes not just martial ones and is a totally separate issue and is far easier to fix. </p><p></p><p>When the system bakes in plot coupons, the game has chosen one style over all others.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Emerikol, post: 5993851, member: 6698278"] First. Magic is made up and it only then becomes part of the D&D world. But D&D has an implied setting. Something thats common to almost all campaigns. Wizards memorize/prepare spells and cast them. Could it be different? Of course. It could be anything because it's magic. In D&D even there are classes that do it differently. But however classes do it that then becomes the standard for the world. So a wizard who casts a fireball in a D&D world knows with certainty that he can't cast that fireball again. (He could memorize/prepare it twice of course but you get the point). It is a limitation that fits the reality of the world. There is no disconnect from the way the wizard is thinking and the player of that wizard. On the flip side. In 4e, a fighter who did a daily power once at 10am doesn't realize he can't do it again. The player knows he can't. But the character is hoping another opportunity arises where he might use it. And the nature of some powers completely make this nonsensical. If I do "Come and Get It" once what in the world is the reason I can't do it again. The only reason is that that is the rule. There is no in world explanation. And that is my issue. It's why I wouldn't have an issue with "Come and Get It" as an at-will power. It's not (necessarily) the power I have issue with. The frequency though is nonsensical. I do have issues with some powers but but hey that applies to all classes not just martial ones and is a totally separate issue and is far easier to fix. When the system bakes in plot coupons, the game has chosen one style over all others. [/QUOTE]
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