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With Respect to the Door and Expectations....The REAL Reason 5e Can't Unite the Base
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<blockquote data-quote="Libramarian" data-source="post: 6002212" data-attributes="member: 6688858"><p>It depends what kind of conversation you're having. If you're a customer at a restaurant then you can say that you'd like your steak well-done without giving the full psychological explanation of why you like it that way.</p><p></p><p>If we're engaged in this sort of conversation, if we're mostly just working out the best way to tell the 5e designers what we want, then I think dissociated mechanics and even anime-y and videogame-y are valid terms to use.</p><p></p><p>Well this would be the test of their validity -- just look at how much intersubjective agreement there is among people at what content warrants the term. I don't have the time or care to conduct this experiment, but I'm willing to bet that the agreement among people at what sort of mechanic is "dissociated" and what sort of art looks "anime-y" would actually be pretty high. (Not as sure about videogame-y).</p><p></p><p>You can look down all you like at people who use the terms. You can think that they're intellectually lazy or stupid or prejudiced. But if they can use them successfully with other people then they're at least valid for the purpose of telling them what they want.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Libramarian, post: 6002212, member: 6688858"] It depends what kind of conversation you're having. If you're a customer at a restaurant then you can say that you'd like your steak well-done without giving the full psychological explanation of why you like it that way. If we're engaged in this sort of conversation, if we're mostly just working out the best way to tell the 5e designers what we want, then I think dissociated mechanics and even anime-y and videogame-y are valid terms to use. Well this would be the test of their validity -- just look at how much intersubjective agreement there is among people at what content warrants the term. I don't have the time or care to conduct this experiment, but I'm willing to bet that the agreement among people at what sort of mechanic is "dissociated" and what sort of art looks "anime-y" would actually be pretty high. (Not as sure about videogame-y). You can look down all you like at people who use the terms. You can think that they're intellectually lazy or stupid or prejudiced. But if they can use them successfully with other people then they're at least valid for the purpose of telling them what they want. [/QUOTE]
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