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<blockquote data-quote="slobo777" data-source="post: 6018359" data-attributes="member: 6694877"><p>I think there's a lot of emotional loading in the word "broken".</p><p></p><p>A published game, not necessarily an RPG, could be "broken" in the sense that the published rules are incomplete or do not work *at all* - e.g. a card game where you need 20 victory points to win, but there are only 17 possible with the best hand. I think there would be general consensus that such a game was "broken", in the sense that it could not be played. RPGs are rarely broken in this way, because they are so open ended. In fact I cannot think of one, although some rules in, say early Chivalry and Sorcery (how to take actions in combat - no rules?) might come close.</p><p></p><p>For most RPGs as far as I can see, one person's "broken" game is another person's entertainment over many evenings. Pointing out the tears and cracks <em>might</em> make someone consider them as problems, but if it doesn't, then time to move on and focus on what works for you and the people that care about those discovered faults.</p><p></p><p>This gets back to the OP. Is there any way in which such different opinions about what a good, playable game looks like can be covered by one published version of D&D?</p><p></p><p>I'd have to agree with the OP and say "no". Trying to publish one set of rules for D&D would be like trying to publish one set of rules encompassing Soccer, American Football, Hockey etc. You end up with "here's a ball, there's a goal, now do what you want", and then try to cover all the rest in "modules". It's far too much, and an established game with a niche that more closely matches what I want is where I'd start.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="slobo777, post: 6018359, member: 6694877"] I think there's a lot of emotional loading in the word "broken". A published game, not necessarily an RPG, could be "broken" in the sense that the published rules are incomplete or do not work *at all* - e.g. a card game where you need 20 victory points to win, but there are only 17 possible with the best hand. I think there would be general consensus that such a game was "broken", in the sense that it could not be played. RPGs are rarely broken in this way, because they are so open ended. In fact I cannot think of one, although some rules in, say early Chivalry and Sorcery (how to take actions in combat - no rules?) might come close. For most RPGs as far as I can see, one person's "broken" game is another person's entertainment over many evenings. Pointing out the tears and cracks [I]might[/I] make someone consider them as problems, but if it doesn't, then time to move on and focus on what works for you and the people that care about those discovered faults. This gets back to the OP. Is there any way in which such different opinions about what a good, playable game looks like can be covered by one published version of D&D? I'd have to agree with the OP and say "no". Trying to publish one set of rules for D&D would be like trying to publish one set of rules encompassing Soccer, American Football, Hockey etc. You end up with "here's a ball, there's a goal, now do what you want", and then try to cover all the rest in "modules". It's far too much, and an established game with a niche that more closely matches what I want is where I'd start. [/QUOTE]
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