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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6019113" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>I'm not taking his will as dogma. I'm taking his will as <em>something that needs to be included in the bounds of RPGs.</em></p><p> </p><p>And I seriously doubt your claim about the majority of players are doing things.</p><p></p><p>As for your illustrations, I've seen in my lifetime the power of Tour de France athletes <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18921784" target="_blank">first rise by 10% then fall by 10% again</a>. I've seen Teller and Paul Daniels perform stunts I didn't believe.</p><p> </p><p>You know what was happening in all those cases? Something I wasn't being told about. Teller and Daniels are both incredibly skilled illusionists. And their art is not telling me about things. And the Tour De France riders <a href="http://www.brettluelling.com/post/3435612945/armstrongs-tdf-victories?800d03c0" target="_blank"><em>were cheating like <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></em>.</a> And it's back down again because much better methods of catching the drug cheats.</p><p> </p><p>You claim not to have gamism. And I'm going to post the challenge to you I always do. If your life and possibly the fate of the world is on the why are you <em>not</em> trying the hardest you can to win? In what way are you in character when you won't even take what edges you can to protect your life and those of your loved ones (unless one of certain character concepts). In what sense are you roleplaying in character by not taking in character threats seriously?</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>And who's talking of throwing anyone out other than you?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 6019113, member: 87792"] I'm not taking his will as dogma. I'm taking his will as [I]something that needs to be included in the bounds of RPGs.[/I] And I seriously doubt your claim about the majority of players are doing things. As for your illustrations, I've seen in my lifetime the power of Tour de France athletes [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18921784"]first rise by 10% then fall by 10% again[/URL]. I've seen Teller and Paul Daniels perform stunts I didn't believe. You know what was happening in all those cases? Something I wasn't being told about. Teller and Daniels are both incredibly skilled illusionists. And their art is not telling me about things. And the Tour De France riders [URL="http://www.brettluelling.com/post/3435612945/armstrongs-tdf-victories?800d03c0"][I]were cheating like :):):):)[/I].[/URL] And it's back down again because much better methods of catching the drug cheats. You claim not to have gamism. And I'm going to post the challenge to you I always do. If your life and possibly the fate of the world is on the why are you [I]not[/I] trying the hardest you can to win? In what way are you in character when you won't even take what edges you can to protect your life and those of your loved ones (unless one of certain character concepts). In what sense are you roleplaying in character by not taking in character threats seriously? And who's talking of throwing anyone out other than you? [/QUOTE]
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