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<blockquote data-quote="Dessert Nomad" data-source="post: 7549948" data-attributes="member: 6976536"><p>That's not at all what the post I was responding to said, and seems weird to throw into this thread - maybe I'm missing something, but the OP didn't say 'I want a class that just burns things to death', he seemed to be asking a more general question than 'who is the best at this one specific thing'. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Were there any of those people in this thread? It really seems like you're continuing an argument from somewhere else in here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, and they're rating those abilities highly enough that they compete with things like being able to see through darkness, extra melee attack, knocking enemies back 10-40', and the like. Wizards just get those abilities those. For next to no cost. At first level. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's not what I've seen. I've seen several 'what are wizards even good at' questions in this thread and on the character optimization board, there's a long running 'low level wizards suck in 5e' thread, a 'wizards don't feel magical anymore because they use magic instead of crossbows' thread, and pretty much no 'wizards are the best evar'. In local AL play, I do see some wizards, but they aren't the most popular class, I don't run into anyone who thinks they dominate the game, and I certainly don't expect to end up with at least one in the party, unlike paladins. Where are you getting the idea that people think wizards are really super good?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dessert Nomad, post: 7549948, member: 6976536"] That's not at all what the post I was responding to said, and seems weird to throw into this thread - maybe I'm missing something, but the OP didn't say 'I want a class that just burns things to death', he seemed to be asking a more general question than 'who is the best at this one specific thing'. Were there any of those people in this thread? It really seems like you're continuing an argument from somewhere else in here. Yes, and they're rating those abilities highly enough that they compete with things like being able to see through darkness, extra melee attack, knocking enemies back 10-40', and the like. Wizards just get those abilities those. For next to no cost. At first level. That's not what I've seen. I've seen several 'what are wizards even good at' questions in this thread and on the character optimization board, there's a long running 'low level wizards suck in 5e' thread, a 'wizards don't feel magical anymore because they use magic instead of crossbows' thread, and pretty much no 'wizards are the best evar'. In local AL play, I do see some wizards, but they aren't the most popular class, I don't run into anyone who thinks they dominate the game, and I certainly don't expect to end up with at least one in the party, unlike paladins. Where are you getting the idea that people think wizards are really super good? [/QUOTE]
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