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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 9054521" data-attributes="member: 86653"><p>No, not hostile at all. Pure simulation. If something's buried under even 1-2 inches of dirt you cannot see it. So no, you cannot see whatever is under that layer of dirt...even if it's just more dirt. An argument could be made that the PC just has to see a point of the effected area, but that in no way implies that the PC can see the whole volume of dirt.</p><p></p><p>"The DM won't let me cheese the spell's description" does not equate to a hostile DM. It's a mismatch of expectations and preferences. This is what I was talking about in the post after the one you quoted. Power fantasy / fantasy superheroes vs simulation. The game is stuck between them and the group needs to sort out which side of this they're on. If the players are on the power fantasy / fantasy superheroes side while the referee is on the simulation side, they're all going to have a bad time. </p><p></p><p>At best you'd get several loose mounds of dirt. You can only have two lasting effects at a time. Even granting one lasting effect equals one wall, which is a wild stretch of the spell's description, you'd at most get two 5ft walls. The spell doesn't turn loose earth into compacted and shaped earth without at least using a lasting effect. The size difference between loose earth and compacted is fairly substantial. Your 5ft wall would be way shorter than you expected once compacted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 9054521, member: 86653"] No, not hostile at all. Pure simulation. If something's buried under even 1-2 inches of dirt you cannot see it. So no, you cannot see whatever is under that layer of dirt...even if it's just more dirt. An argument could be made that the PC just has to see a point of the effected area, but that in no way implies that the PC can see the whole volume of dirt. "The DM won't let me cheese the spell's description" does not equate to a hostile DM. It's a mismatch of expectations and preferences. This is what I was talking about in the post after the one you quoted. Power fantasy / fantasy superheroes vs simulation. The game is stuck between them and the group needs to sort out which side of this they're on. If the players are on the power fantasy / fantasy superheroes side while the referee is on the simulation side, they're all going to have a bad time. At best you'd get several loose mounds of dirt. You can only have two lasting effects at a time. Even granting one lasting effect equals one wall, which is a wild stretch of the spell's description, you'd at most get two 5ft walls. The spell doesn't turn loose earth into compacted and shaped earth without at least using a lasting effect. The size difference between loose earth and compacted is fairly substantial. Your 5ft wall would be way shorter than you expected once compacted. [/QUOTE]
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