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<blockquote data-quote="TheSword" data-source="post: 8634897" data-attributes="member: 6879661"><p>There is a price to be paid for too much play testing though, just as there is for too little. The problem is those systems did have play testing that delayed the release, and no doubt they could could have playtested endlessly and never released anything. Eventually a line is drawn and folks say this product is good enough to go out.</p><p></p><p>Perfection is the enemy of Progress - Churchill</p><p><span style="font-size: 16px">The best is the enemy of the good - Voltaire</span></p><p>Better a diamond with a flaw, than a pebble without - Confucius</p><p></p><p>Calling WotC and Paizo’s testing of 1e and 5e a hype train is particularly unreasonable considering how it clearly shaped both of those products and cemented some progressive and popular ideas. It sounds like you just didn’t agree with the decisions taken on the back of it. Gunslinger was a popular addition as far as I could see, particularly for something so controversial as gunpowder.</p><p></p><p>Sometimes it’s better to release products into the wild and see what happens than study them in a lab. Particularly if are open to further changes based on live testing.</p><p></p><p>Believe me, 10 years on we would be getting some version of 5.5 whatever it turned out to be. From the looks of it, very similar to the existing system. WotC did get it right and did reap GREAT benefits from it. You sound a bit like the person looking at the Cistene Chapel’s ceiling and saying it would have been better on a wall so you didn’t have to crick your neck. As turning your head to the heavens wasn’t the whole point. The fact that 5e <strong>has</strong> lasted 10 years tells me that they pretty much got it right. Funnily enough as a result of play testing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheSword, post: 8634897, member: 6879661"] There is a price to be paid for too much play testing though, just as there is for too little. The problem is those systems did have play testing that delayed the release, and no doubt they could could have playtested endlessly and never released anything. Eventually a line is drawn and folks say this product is good enough to go out. Perfection is the enemy of Progress - Churchill [SIZE=16px]The best is the enemy of the good - Voltaire[/SIZE] Better a diamond with a flaw, than a pebble without - Confucius Calling WotC and Paizo’s testing of 1e and 5e a hype train is particularly unreasonable considering how it clearly shaped both of those products and cemented some progressive and popular ideas. It sounds like you just didn’t agree with the decisions taken on the back of it. Gunslinger was a popular addition as far as I could see, particularly for something so controversial as gunpowder. Sometimes it’s better to release products into the wild and see what happens than study them in a lab. Particularly if are open to further changes based on live testing. Believe me, 10 years on we would be getting some version of 5.5 whatever it turned out to be. From the looks of it, very similar to the existing system. WotC did get it right and did reap GREAT benefits from it. You sound a bit like the person looking at the Cistene Chapel’s ceiling and saying it would have been better on a wall so you didn’t have to crick your neck. As turning your head to the heavens wasn’t the whole point. The fact that 5e [B]has[/B] lasted 10 years tells me that they pretty much got it right. Funnily enough as a result of play testing. [/QUOTE]
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