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<blockquote data-quote="Dragonwriter" data-source="post: 5649203" data-attributes="member: 54988"><p>I made the comment of 'without the eidolon' in large part due to my points about the Druid and its animal companion. You can ditch the AC and leave the Druid still going strong. Take away the eidolon, and the Summoner is without its central class feature.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Perhaps... It is a class reliant on one class feature above all. Without the eidolon, the Summoner is far less a class than it should be. Now the character behind the class still does have significant pull and influence - after all, no two eidolons should really be alike. But without the eidolon, Summoners lose out on a lot of stuff. </p><p>You can even look at the other class features. Shield Ally, the one I got this level, is dependent on me being <em>right next to the eidolon</em> in order to gain the benefit. The rest of the class features are also all built to rely on the eidolon and/or its evolutions.</p><p></p><p>It's a class with a central design feature and not a lot of room elsewhere. Remove the eidolon, and you've got a class weaker than the Bard. Or possibly even the Monk <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dragonwriter, post: 5649203, member: 54988"] I made the comment of 'without the eidolon' in large part due to my points about the Druid and its animal companion. You can ditch the AC and leave the Druid still going strong. Take away the eidolon, and the Summoner is without its central class feature. Perhaps... It is a class reliant on one class feature above all. Without the eidolon, the Summoner is far less a class than it should be. Now the character behind the class still does have significant pull and influence - after all, no two eidolons should really be alike. But without the eidolon, Summoners lose out on a lot of stuff. You can even look at the other class features. Shield Ally, the one I got this level, is dependent on me being [i]right next to the eidolon[/i] in order to gain the benefit. The rest of the class features are also all built to rely on the eidolon and/or its evolutions. It's a class with a central design feature and not a lot of room elsewhere. Remove the eidolon, and you've got a class weaker than the Bard. Or possibly even the Monk :p [/QUOTE]
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