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<blockquote data-quote="prosfilaes" data-source="post: 8928853" data-attributes="member: 40166"><p>If the facts matter, then the GPL or BSD are revocable under certain circumstances.</p><p></p><p>One way the law invites despise is when (a) facts matter, especially facts the average person may not know and in ways the average person may not understand and (b) the only way to know is to have enough money to hire an attorney, meaning the facts only matter when they help the rich.</p><p></p><p>These parties own copyrights for code included in the Linux kernel and the BSD operating system, part of Android and Mac OS X, respectively. If WotC can revoke the license to the SRD, why can't Google revoke its license to its code in Android, or Oracle to the OpenJDK, which would have been useful for its recent case against Google that went to the Supreme Court?</p><p></p><p></p><p>The Debian operating system has 59,000 software packages, some dating back 40 years. The changes to the last version of the Linux kernel were by 2000 different developers, and at least 500 different copyright holders; over the last 30 years, I'm guessing that code has at least 5,000 copyright holders. None of those resemble the WotC case at all?</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you don't know about open source licensing, why are you expressing confident opinions about it? I know IBM went to a programmer who licensed his code under a license that included a "do no evil" clause and requested an exception for their customers, so I can't imagine they'd be blaise about using licenses like the CC licenses if they were worried about them or their customers getting cut off. I've been in lots of arguments about open source licenses over the last 25 years, including the CC licenses, and you're the only one I've ever heard suggesting the offer was revocable, that a company like Google was dumping billions of dollars into a system that 5,000 copyright holders, including some hated enemies, could prevent them from using the kernel (which includes letting licensees use the code.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="prosfilaes, post: 8928853, member: 40166"] If the facts matter, then the GPL or BSD are revocable under certain circumstances. One way the law invites despise is when (a) facts matter, especially facts the average person may not know and in ways the average person may not understand and (b) the only way to know is to have enough money to hire an attorney, meaning the facts only matter when they help the rich. These parties own copyrights for code included in the Linux kernel and the BSD operating system, part of Android and Mac OS X, respectively. If WotC can revoke the license to the SRD, why can't Google revoke its license to its code in Android, or Oracle to the OpenJDK, which would have been useful for its recent case against Google that went to the Supreme Court? The Debian operating system has 59,000 software packages, some dating back 40 years. The changes to the last version of the Linux kernel were by 2000 different developers, and at least 500 different copyright holders; over the last 30 years, I'm guessing that code has at least 5,000 copyright holders. None of those resemble the WotC case at all? If you don't know about open source licensing, why are you expressing confident opinions about it? I know IBM went to a programmer who licensed his code under a license that included a "do no evil" clause and requested an exception for their customers, so I can't imagine they'd be blaise about using licenses like the CC licenses if they were worried about them or their customers getting cut off. I've been in lots of arguments about open source licenses over the last 25 years, including the CC licenses, and you're the only one I've ever heard suggesting the offer was revocable, that a company like Google was dumping billions of dollars into a system that 5,000 copyright holders, including some hated enemies, could prevent them from using the kernel (which includes letting licensees use the code.) [/QUOTE]
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