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<blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 5753091" data-attributes="member: 6957"><p>Those '<strong><em>If</em></strong>'s would have made a difference - But he did not use any 'if's. Instead he made blanket statements, and his statements did not get curbed before seeing print, and formed the basis for many people's belief that 4e was not going to be the game for them.</p><p></p><p>I think that Wyatt, more than any other, was the source of the 'bad-wrong-fun' description that a lot of folks felt that WotC was trying to place on 3.X. </p><p></p><p>And I will be honest - I think that he said exactly what he wanted to say. He said the same things too many times for it to be otherwise - that he really did view 4e as being all about the combat encounter. </p><p></p><p>He was trying to limit the game to those things that 4e does handle well, and trying to play down what it did not handle well. He was not misplacing nuances, he <em>was</em> trying to tear down 3.X in the hopes that by doing so he would promote 4e. If so, then he was very wrong.</p><p></p><p>Mind, 4e itself would likely have turned off some of those same people that were angered by his statements, but adding what many saw, and still see, as needless insults really did not help matters. Insulting your customer base is not the best way to start things off.</p><p></p><p>And I think that there is little doubt that folks <em>are</em> using 4e for things far beyond just combat encounters, those statements weren't <em>necessary</em>. He would have been better served showing how those things can be done with 4e than by saying that they 'aren't fun' and that you were better off just not doing them.</p><p></p><p>Yet Mr. Baker is leaving and Mr. Wyatt is still there.... </p><p></p><p>The Auld Grump, but at the rate WotC goes through people....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheAuldGrump, post: 5753091, member: 6957"] Those '[B][I]If[/I][/B]'s would have made a difference - But he did not use any 'if's. Instead he made blanket statements, and his statements did not get curbed before seeing print, and formed the basis for many people's belief that 4e was not going to be the game for them. I think that Wyatt, more than any other, was the source of the 'bad-wrong-fun' description that a lot of folks felt that WotC was trying to place on 3.X. And I will be honest - I think that he said exactly what he wanted to say. He said the same things too many times for it to be otherwise - that he really did view 4e as being all about the combat encounter. He was trying to limit the game to those things that 4e does handle well, and trying to play down what it did not handle well. He was not misplacing nuances, he [i]was[/i] trying to tear down 3.X in the hopes that by doing so he would promote 4e. If so, then he was very wrong. Mind, 4e itself would likely have turned off some of those same people that were angered by his statements, but adding what many saw, and still see, as needless insults really did not help matters. Insulting your customer base is not the best way to start things off. And I think that there is little doubt that folks [i]are[/i] using 4e for things far beyond just combat encounters, those statements weren't [i]necessary[/i]. He would have been better served showing how those things can be done with 4e than by saying that they 'aren't fun' and that you were better off just not doing them. Yet Mr. Baker is leaving and Mr. Wyatt is still there.... The Auld Grump, but at the rate WotC goes through people.... [/QUOTE]
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