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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8042133" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I want to take a moment to thank you for your positions. </p><p></p><p>I think if they did go in and redefine alignment, and reapply it, they might be able to make something better, but I am uncertain if the amount of time and energy put into that endeavor would be worth it. Again, I've found that the lore descriptions offer plenty of information for me to run monsters, with no need for alignment considerations, and I just don't understand why people insist those paragraphs are somehow insufficient to stand on their own. </p><p></p><p>But, a rework of alignment could be useful, if they tightened their terms and what they meant.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm going to combine this part with [USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER] 's response in the similiar vein. </p><p></p><p>Firstly, I have never once encountered or heard of a benevolent Slaad. They breed by warping and twisting mortal creatures or by laying eggs in them to burst out and kill them. They also keep slave camps for those breeding arrangements according to older lore. Like how the creatures most personifying free-will employ prison breeding camps for murdering people and turning them into slaad</p><p></p><p>Also, for embodying Chaos they are very predictable. Their life cycle is heavily regimented and follows a strict path. They all appear in the exact same manner, unlike say, demons,and even have a mating season in some lore.</p><p></p><p>Also, just re-read all of Volo's and the hag entry. Nothing says they will break their deals. In fact, they mention that the biggest differences between a Devil and a Hag are that hags will wait for people to come to them, and that they don't want your soul, they want to make you miserable in this life. </p><p></p><p>They even have strict codes they follow when dealing with other hags or fey. And since they all keep in contact, and Covens are a thing, I'm really not sure why they wouldn't be considered lawful. They aren't pleasant, but that is what the Evil is about.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sounds like you could do all that without alignment too. Just make things up, or if it is just a quick fight it might not even matter.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right, forgot. Your exact words were "they will be generally prone to acting on their whims, often acting carefree without regard to good or evil." </p><p></p><p>My interpretation of those words are that they would act like they want (that is the interpretation of where you said they act on their whims, whims being things that they want to do) and they generally won't care about good or evil (that being the interpretation of them acting carefree without regard to good or evil) </p><p></p><p>Which, again. Most mortals on the street do what they want to do, acting on their whims and fancies, and most of them do not care overly much about things being good or evil. A greedy blacksmith who cheats his customers isn't thinking "Ah, I would like to create more evil in the world and spread misery" they are thinking about their own gains, and acting for their own desires. They don't really care if the action is good or evil. They are just doing what they want. </p><p></p><p>But, I'm sure you'll find some way to twist this into me being wrong again. Have fun.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wow, the third time you've compared me to a petulant child. You know, I think I feel a change coming over me, I think that... </p><p></p><p>Wait, no, this is still puerile and annoying. Just like when you were telling me that my lack of understanding was the problem. </p><p></p><p>Honestly, if you are this far devolved into personal attacks, would you mind not cluttering up the thread? Just PM me all the insults you'd like to level at me. It will save everyone else from having to read them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Huh, I never knew they were mere-ogres in the past. Neat. </p><p></p><p>I was aware that Will-O-Wisps have changed quite a few times, and I can see Half-Dragons counting as both humanoid and draconic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8042133, member: 6801228"] I want to take a moment to thank you for your positions. I think if they did go in and redefine alignment, and reapply it, they might be able to make something better, but I am uncertain if the amount of time and energy put into that endeavor would be worth it. Again, I've found that the lore descriptions offer plenty of information for me to run monsters, with no need for alignment considerations, and I just don't understand why people insist those paragraphs are somehow insufficient to stand on their own. But, a rework of alignment could be useful, if they tightened their terms and what they meant. I'm going to combine this part with [USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER] 's response in the similiar vein. Firstly, I have never once encountered or heard of a benevolent Slaad. They breed by warping and twisting mortal creatures or by laying eggs in them to burst out and kill them. They also keep slave camps for those breeding arrangements according to older lore. Like how the creatures most personifying free-will employ prison breeding camps for murdering people and turning them into slaad Also, for embodying Chaos they are very predictable. Their life cycle is heavily regimented and follows a strict path. They all appear in the exact same manner, unlike say, demons,and even have a mating season in some lore. Also, just re-read all of Volo's and the hag entry. Nothing says they will break their deals. In fact, they mention that the biggest differences between a Devil and a Hag are that hags will wait for people to come to them, and that they don't want your soul, they want to make you miserable in this life. They even have strict codes they follow when dealing with other hags or fey. And since they all keep in contact, and Covens are a thing, I'm really not sure why they wouldn't be considered lawful. They aren't pleasant, but that is what the Evil is about. Sounds like you could do all that without alignment too. Just make things up, or if it is just a quick fight it might not even matter. Right, forgot. Your exact words were "they will be generally prone to acting on their whims, often acting carefree without regard to good or evil." My interpretation of those words are that they would act like they want (that is the interpretation of where you said they act on their whims, whims being things that they want to do) and they generally won't care about good or evil (that being the interpretation of them acting carefree without regard to good or evil) Which, again. Most mortals on the street do what they want to do, acting on their whims and fancies, and most of them do not care overly much about things being good or evil. A greedy blacksmith who cheats his customers isn't thinking "Ah, I would like to create more evil in the world and spread misery" they are thinking about their own gains, and acting for their own desires. They don't really care if the action is good or evil. They are just doing what they want. But, I'm sure you'll find some way to twist this into me being wrong again. Have fun. Wow, the third time you've compared me to a petulant child. You know, I think I feel a change coming over me, I think that... Wait, no, this is still puerile and annoying. Just like when you were telling me that my lack of understanding was the problem. Honestly, if you are this far devolved into personal attacks, would you mind not cluttering up the thread? Just PM me all the insults you'd like to level at me. It will save everyone else from having to read them. Huh, I never knew they were mere-ogres in the past. Neat. I was aware that Will-O-Wisps have changed quite a few times, and I can see Half-Dragons counting as both humanoid and draconic. [/QUOTE]
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