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Would you allow this paladin in your game? (new fiction added 11/11/08)
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<blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 1956367" data-attributes="member: 3424"><p>You know, I think the key disconnect that many people are experiencing is that there is a lot of baggage associated with the term "paladin". At a mechanical level, levels in the Paladin class simply define the abilities of a character in the game. However, standing apart from the Paladin class is the paladin archetype. I think what this thread has demonstrated is that some DMs are quite willing to allow characters to take levels in the Paladin class even if they do not conform to the "standard" paladin archetype.</p><p></p><p>It does not help that different people have different ideas of what the paladin archetype is. Some have a view of the archetype which requires the character to be chosen by a deity, to refrain from vices, and be a shining example of clean living and proper behavior. Others feel that the willingness to fight against evil and to sacrifice one's life in doing so is enough. </p><p></p><p>Kudos to shilsen for creating a character that raises so many issues: </p><p>Cynicism - Does a paladin have to be optimistic? </p><p>Prostitution - Does a paladin have to be chaste? Celibate? Is prostitution Evil? Chaotic? </p><p>Vices - When is a vice a vice, and when it is merely recreation? Is indulging in a vice Evil? Chaotic?</p><p></p><p>I personally would have no problems with such a character in my game, but I do like characters that are played against type. Such as the honest, honorable Watch detective. Is he a rogue? No. Does he have levels in the Rogue class? Yes. Or the lazy son of the Baron who never applies himself to his studies. Is he a commoner? No. Does he have levels in the Commoner NPC class? Yes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FireLance, post: 1956367, member: 3424"] You know, I think the key disconnect that many people are experiencing is that there is a lot of baggage associated with the term "paladin". At a mechanical level, levels in the Paladin class simply define the abilities of a character in the game. However, standing apart from the Paladin class is the paladin archetype. I think what this thread has demonstrated is that some DMs are quite willing to allow characters to take levels in the Paladin class even if they do not conform to the "standard" paladin archetype. It does not help that different people have different ideas of what the paladin archetype is. Some have a view of the archetype which requires the character to be chosen by a deity, to refrain from vices, and be a shining example of clean living and proper behavior. Others feel that the willingness to fight against evil and to sacrifice one's life in doing so is enough. Kudos to shilsen for creating a character that raises so many issues: Cynicism - Does a paladin have to be optimistic? Prostitution - Does a paladin have to be chaste? Celibate? Is prostitution Evil? Chaotic? Vices - When is a vice a vice, and when it is merely recreation? Is indulging in a vice Evil? Chaotic? I personally would have no problems with such a character in my game, but I do like characters that are played against type. Such as the honest, honorable Watch detective. Is he a rogue? No. Does he have levels in the Rogue class? Yes. Or the lazy son of the Baron who never applies himself to his studies. Is he a commoner? No. Does he have levels in the Commoner NPC class? Yes. [/QUOTE]
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