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Would you allow this paladin in your game? (new fiction added 11/11/08)
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<blockquote data-quote="drnuncheon" data-source="post: 1956926" data-attributes="member: 96"><p>Well, that depends on what you mean by 'control his appetites'. Sure, he drinks (so does everyone in a medievalesque society - the water's not safe). Does he drink to excess? To the point where it interferes with the performance of his duty? It doesn't seem like it. He's remarkably lucid when he speaks to Magnus, probably thanks to the Divine Grace bonus to his Fortitude saves. </p><p> </p><p> Does he wench to excess, to the point where it interferes with the performance of his duty? Again, not that we've seen.</p><p> </p><p> So, it seems to me that he does have control of his appetites, and they do not control him - he does not shirk his duty to indulge them that we have seen.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> ...but not necessarily a neutral or evil one either. Honor does not necessarily equate to 'good'. If someone insults you, honor might demand satisfaction, but that does not mean that slaughtering him in a duel is good (even if it upholds your honor).</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Whoah, hold on there, slim! Since when is 'getting what you want' <em>evil</em>? Are good people required to never get anything they want? Am I evil because I wanted to eat lunch and got what I wanted?</p><p> </p><p> Evil is making sure you get what you want <em>even if it is at the expense of other people</em>. And we don't see Cedric doing that at all. In fact, he seems to go out of his way to avoid taking advantage of people.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> And yet, is anything he does in his private life incompatible with his duty? Is he ever putting himself above his duty or other people? If he's not, then it's not really chaotic, is it? It's at worst neutral.</p><p> </p><p> Now, if Cedric ever succumbed to that cynicism - if he ever stayed in bed with the whores when a peasant came to ask for help and he said "go away, I'm getting busy", if he ever said "Why go out and fight? It's not going to change anything, so I'll just stay here and drink" - <u>then</u> he'd have lost his paladinhood.</p><p> </p><p> J</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="drnuncheon, post: 1956926, member: 96"] Well, that depends on what you mean by 'control his appetites'. Sure, he drinks (so does everyone in a medievalesque society - the water's not safe). Does he drink to excess? To the point where it interferes with the performance of his duty? It doesn't seem like it. He's remarkably lucid when he speaks to Magnus, probably thanks to the Divine Grace bonus to his Fortitude saves. Does he wench to excess, to the point where it interferes with the performance of his duty? Again, not that we've seen. So, it seems to me that he does have control of his appetites, and they do not control him - he does not shirk his duty to indulge them that we have seen. ...but not necessarily a neutral or evil one either. Honor does not necessarily equate to 'good'. If someone insults you, honor might demand satisfaction, but that does not mean that slaughtering him in a duel is good (even if it upholds your honor). Whoah, hold on there, slim! Since when is 'getting what you want' [i]evil[/i]? Are good people required to never get anything they want? Am I evil because I wanted to eat lunch and got what I wanted? Evil is making sure you get what you want [i]even if it is at the expense of other people[/i]. And we don't see Cedric doing that at all. In fact, he seems to go out of his way to avoid taking advantage of people. And yet, is anything he does in his private life incompatible with his duty? Is he ever putting himself above his duty or other people? If he's not, then it's not really chaotic, is it? It's at worst neutral. Now, if Cedric ever succumbed to that cynicism - if he ever stayed in bed with the whores when a peasant came to ask for help and he said "go away, I'm getting busy", if he ever said "Why go out and fight? It's not going to change anything, so I'll just stay here and drink" - [u]then[/u] he'd have lost his paladinhood. J [/QUOTE]
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