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Would you allow this paladin in your game? (new fiction added 11/11/08)
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<blockquote data-quote="maddman75" data-source="post: 1957180" data-attributes="member: 2673"><p>The most important arguement was how shilsen posed the question - would *you* allow Sir Cedric in your campaign?</p><p></p><p>The answer depends on many variables. One of the most important, its clear to me as this debate goes on, is whether your world features are modern or medieval outlook. Some fantasy worlds, (one may argue that settings such as Forgotten Realms included) has a rather modern outlook. Sure there's no planes or trains, but the people are mostly educated, generally egalitarian, open to the religions of others, and consider slavery or even quasi-slavery such as serfdom as abhorrent. In such a setting, clearly Sir Cedric is inappropriate as a paladin.</p><p></p><p>A medieval worldview tries to recreate the attitudes, at least some of them, of the past. Life is hard, and people suffer. Most are uneducated and superstitious, and wary and possibly violent toward someone of the same race with a funny accent, nevermind an entirely different race! And other faiths could be seen as dangerous delusions or demon worship. Slavery is still looked down upon, but serfdom and other lower class people are where they are supposed to be. A prostitute is a lowly profession to be sure, but not really lower than a ditch-digger or other unskilled labor. In such a setting, Sir Cedric is perfectly appropriate. Heck, I'd have the members of the Order upset not because he visits the brothel - what knight doesn't? - but because he doesn't try to hide it. </p><p></p><p>Also there is the nature of the religions in the campaign. Are the gods specific and direct, often speaking to their clerics and telling them exactly what is and isn't appropriate? Or are they more aloof, largely leaving men to divine their own interpretations and dogmas from the teachings? And about the drinking, it depends again on the modern/medieval mindset. If the people have some concept of basic sanitation, then a paladin drinking could be seen as scandalous. In a medieval world he's a paladin who doesn't want to get dysentary (okay, he's immune to disease, but that's not the point). Everyone drinks alcohol - men, women, even children, because it's safer than water.</p><p></p><p>I'd allow Cedric in a heartbeat. But then I have a harsh medieval mindset world with aloof, unspecific deities. He's fit right in. Other settings he might not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="maddman75, post: 1957180, member: 2673"] The most important arguement was how shilsen posed the question - would *you* allow Sir Cedric in your campaign? The answer depends on many variables. One of the most important, its clear to me as this debate goes on, is whether your world features are modern or medieval outlook. Some fantasy worlds, (one may argue that settings such as Forgotten Realms included) has a rather modern outlook. Sure there's no planes or trains, but the people are mostly educated, generally egalitarian, open to the religions of others, and consider slavery or even quasi-slavery such as serfdom as abhorrent. In such a setting, clearly Sir Cedric is inappropriate as a paladin. A medieval worldview tries to recreate the attitudes, at least some of them, of the past. Life is hard, and people suffer. Most are uneducated and superstitious, and wary and possibly violent toward someone of the same race with a funny accent, nevermind an entirely different race! And other faiths could be seen as dangerous delusions or demon worship. Slavery is still looked down upon, but serfdom and other lower class people are where they are supposed to be. A prostitute is a lowly profession to be sure, but not really lower than a ditch-digger or other unskilled labor. In such a setting, Sir Cedric is perfectly appropriate. Heck, I'd have the members of the Order upset not because he visits the brothel - what knight doesn't? - but because he doesn't try to hide it. Also there is the nature of the religions in the campaign. Are the gods specific and direct, often speaking to their clerics and telling them exactly what is and isn't appropriate? Or are they more aloof, largely leaving men to divine their own interpretations and dogmas from the teachings? And about the drinking, it depends again on the modern/medieval mindset. If the people have some concept of basic sanitation, then a paladin drinking could be seen as scandalous. In a medieval world he's a paladin who doesn't want to get dysentary (okay, he's immune to disease, but that's not the point). Everyone drinks alcohol - men, women, even children, because it's safer than water. I'd allow Cedric in a heartbeat. But then I have a harsh medieval mindset world with aloof, unspecific deities. He's fit right in. Other settings he might not. [/QUOTE]
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