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<blockquote data-quote="Orius" data-source="post: 1959080" data-attributes="member: 8863"><p>Some more thoughts of mine upon reading through this thread (and I'm glad it reopened):</p><p></p><p>It's implied that Cedric gets his abilities from a divine source. And there's two interesting bits of characterization to take note of here: 1) one of the first things Cedric does when we wakes up is to pray and 2) while Cedric himself is described as being unkempt, the holy symbol of his god is described as "polished", which I assume means he takes better care of it than he does of himself. From this it seems that regardless of Cedric's behavior and attitude, he's still obviously devoted to his god. It would also seem that the god isn't bothered by Cedric's activities or attitude, since he still is granted his powers. Also note that it is never mentioned exactly <em>which</em> god Cedric serves.</p><p></p><p>I'd say that Cedric does come off as a bit arrogant, at least in his reply to Magnus. Maybe he's just sick of constantly defendign himself. Who knows?</p><p></p><p>Cedric is a bit cynical, or perhaps I'd say more realistic (but then I'm a cynic myself <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />). He knows he likely will get killed somewhere along the line. Where some paladins are overconfident in their faith, he's a bit smarter. Just because you're relying on the power of faith doesn't mean you won't face an opponent who isn't empowered by an evil faith which is just as strong or stronger as yours. Hence the moral of Sir Bodel. After all, paladins are on the front lines in the conflict of good and evil. But in the end Cedric will still fight because he believes it's the right thing to do, even if he loses. Perhaps this willingness to sacrifice his life in the name of good even if it ends up being meaningless impresses Cedric's god more than the faith of a paladin who blindly believes that good will always triumph over evil. After all, the blind paladin doesn't feel he has anything to lose, while Cedric is openly chosing to sacrifice himself. After all, with his view of things, he could just say, "Screw it, let someone else do this," but he isn't.</p><p></p><p>Even if he's not fighting demons, maybe just some evil warlord, he knows over the long run it doesn't make a difference. Why? I don't see it as simple pessimism, but as taking the long view. You defeat an evil warlord, you create a power vacuum. Who's to say some worse bastard won't come along to take the last one's place? He doesn't have a rose-colored view on his actions, seeing it as "I kill the bad guy and everyone lives happily ever after." Maybe it's more like being smart enough to know that his actions have consequences.</p><p></p><p>Finally there's the whole consorting with prostitutes angle. He's using his powers to help them out. A lot of people, like Magnus, would just turn their noses up at the girls see them as nothing more than filthy whores and turn their backs on them. Cedric doesn't do that. He's healing them, protecting them, and so on. And he's doing some good here too; many people l(like Magnus), either don't give a damn what happens to the whores or look down on them. Perhaps this goes against the spirit of the teachings of the god Cedric serves, and he still gets his powers because he serves those in need without judging them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Orius, post: 1959080, member: 8863"] Some more thoughts of mine upon reading through this thread (and I'm glad it reopened): It's implied that Cedric gets his abilities from a divine source. And there's two interesting bits of characterization to take note of here: 1) one of the first things Cedric does when we wakes up is to pray and 2) while Cedric himself is described as being unkempt, the holy symbol of his god is described as "polished", which I assume means he takes better care of it than he does of himself. From this it seems that regardless of Cedric's behavior and attitude, he's still obviously devoted to his god. It would also seem that the god isn't bothered by Cedric's activities or attitude, since he still is granted his powers. Also note that it is never mentioned exactly [i]which[/i] god Cedric serves. I'd say that Cedric does come off as a bit arrogant, at least in his reply to Magnus. Maybe he's just sick of constantly defendign himself. Who knows? Cedric is a bit cynical, or perhaps I'd say more realistic (but then I'm a cynic myself :)). He knows he likely will get killed somewhere along the line. Where some paladins are overconfident in their faith, he's a bit smarter. Just because you're relying on the power of faith doesn't mean you won't face an opponent who isn't empowered by an evil faith which is just as strong or stronger as yours. Hence the moral of Sir Bodel. After all, paladins are on the front lines in the conflict of good and evil. But in the end Cedric will still fight because he believes it's the right thing to do, even if he loses. Perhaps this willingness to sacrifice his life in the name of good even if it ends up being meaningless impresses Cedric's god more than the faith of a paladin who blindly believes that good will always triumph over evil. After all, the blind paladin doesn't feel he has anything to lose, while Cedric is openly chosing to sacrifice himself. After all, with his view of things, he could just say, "Screw it, let someone else do this," but he isn't. Even if he's not fighting demons, maybe just some evil warlord, he knows over the long run it doesn't make a difference. Why? I don't see it as simple pessimism, but as taking the long view. You defeat an evil warlord, you create a power vacuum. Who's to say some worse bastard won't come along to take the last one's place? He doesn't have a rose-colored view on his actions, seeing it as "I kill the bad guy and everyone lives happily ever after." Maybe it's more like being smart enough to know that his actions have consequences. Finally there's the whole consorting with prostitutes angle. He's using his powers to help them out. A lot of people, like Magnus, would just turn their noses up at the girls see them as nothing more than filthy whores and turn their backs on them. Cedric doesn't do that. He's healing them, protecting them, and so on. And he's doing some good here too; many people l(like Magnus), either don't give a damn what happens to the whores or look down on them. Perhaps this goes against the spirit of the teachings of the god Cedric serves, and he still gets his powers because he serves those in need without judging them. [/QUOTE]
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