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Would you allow this paladin in your game? (new fiction added 11/11/08)
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<blockquote data-quote="Rostek" data-source="post: 1961447" data-attributes="member: 23553"><p>As much as I hate to jump head first into an active debate (cross-fire, after all <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />), I think I might as well lend my opinion.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Elder-Basilisk</strong>, I think your point is correct to <em>some</em> extent- however, at the same time <strong>CarpeDavid</strong>'s explanation is a bit closer to the truth- Just read some Chaucer; some parts "foul" language is that which is used by the commoners as opposed to the "civilized" tongue used by the privileged upper class. While there are certainly portions of cursing that fall under your definition, much (if not most) of this type of language falls under colloquialisms and idioms of the lower-class (and thus is associated with chaos and "bad". This is a common theme- we put that which is "royal" on a pedestal and thus everything "common" has negative connotations).</p><p>I'm just going to stay away from the prostitution angle aside from saying that IMO (and experience), such things are far more complicated than the position you espouse. </p><p>The cynicism is refreshing for me. Granted- our only source of info is kind of stripped from it's context in fiction, but <strong>shilsen</strong>'s explanation leaves me confident in the intention of the speech.</p><p>That said- I would allow Cedric IMC, slightly modified of course to fit properly with how I run alignment and religion. I see nothing in his behavior that is inherently "aligned", and the context provided gives me confidence that unless the Paladin Code in question (DM determined, as it should be- Campaign specific) specifically forbids it, it is fine.</p><p>This Paladin is very refreshing- I'm sick of the stupidly zealous Boy Scout who doesn't temper his belief with thought. This one is a Boy Scout who thinks, which I definatly appriciate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rostek, post: 1961447, member: 23553"] As much as I hate to jump head first into an active debate (cross-fire, after all ;)), I think I might as well lend my opinion. [B]Elder-Basilisk[/b], I think your point is correct to [I]some[/I] extent- however, at the same time [B]CarpeDavid[/B]'s explanation is a bit closer to the truth- Just read some Chaucer; some parts "foul" language is that which is used by the commoners as opposed to the "civilized" tongue used by the privileged upper class. While there are certainly portions of cursing that fall under your definition, much (if not most) of this type of language falls under colloquialisms and idioms of the lower-class (and thus is associated with chaos and "bad". This is a common theme- we put that which is "royal" on a pedestal and thus everything "common" has negative connotations). I'm just going to stay away from the prostitution angle aside from saying that IMO (and experience), such things are far more complicated than the position you espouse. The cynicism is refreshing for me. Granted- our only source of info is kind of stripped from it's context in fiction, but [B]shilsen[/B]'s explanation leaves me confident in the intention of the speech. That said- I would allow Cedric IMC, slightly modified of course to fit properly with how I run alignment and religion. I see nothing in his behavior that is inherently "aligned", and the context provided gives me confidence that unless the Paladin Code in question (DM determined, as it should be- Campaign specific) specifically forbids it, it is fine. This Paladin is very refreshing- I'm sick of the stupidly zealous Boy Scout who doesn't temper his belief with thought. This one is a Boy Scout who thinks, which I definatly appriciate. [/QUOTE]
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