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Would you allow this paladin in your game? (new fiction added 11/11/08)
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<blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 2038457" data-attributes="member: 7240"><p>Medieval-style agrarian economies often used both child labour and quasi-slave labour. While I agree that modern people in modern cultures in medieval drag is a way of playing D&D, it is not the only way of playing D&D. It seems to me that you are making the argument that paladins could not really comfortably exist in the high medieval society. </p><p></p><p>Now don't get me wrong here. I don't think this paladin belongs in medieval society either. But the idea that paladins would be incompatible with societies practicing child labour seems to force D&D into being less representative of medieval culture than a badly run chapter of the SCA.Again, this kind of reasoning works fine if this game is just a 21st century drag act but come on -- the idea that a Christian sacrament might be incompatible with paladinhood is, again, really dubious here.Agreed. But this is just how a pre-modern person would think. The idea of intoxication as a defense comes from our modern pathologization of the human will (and I think we agree here).Where in the Cedric text do you get the sense that his good deeds are contingent upon reward. Recognizing that there will be reward for your good deeds is different, ethically, than making your deeds contingent upon reward. People can be genuinely good and live Christian lives and <em>expect</em> that they will go to heaven because they are living in a godly way. But this doesn't cheapen their good deeds unless they are deeds they would not otherwise perform.I think you may have a point here. While I think a fatalistic paladin could be an inspiration, this one is not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fusangite, post: 2038457, member: 7240"] Medieval-style agrarian economies often used both child labour and quasi-slave labour. While I agree that modern people in modern cultures in medieval drag is a way of playing D&D, it is not the only way of playing D&D. It seems to me that you are making the argument that paladins could not really comfortably exist in the high medieval society. Now don't get me wrong here. I don't think this paladin belongs in medieval society either. But the idea that paladins would be incompatible with societies practicing child labour seems to force D&D into being less representative of medieval culture than a badly run chapter of the SCA.Again, this kind of reasoning works fine if this game is just a 21st century drag act but come on -- the idea that a Christian sacrament might be incompatible with paladinhood is, again, really dubious here.Agreed. But this is just how a pre-modern person would think. The idea of intoxication as a defense comes from our modern pathologization of the human will (and I think we agree here).Where in the Cedric text do you get the sense that his good deeds are contingent upon reward. Recognizing that there will be reward for your good deeds is different, ethically, than making your deeds contingent upon reward. People can be genuinely good and live Christian lives and [i]expect[/i] that they will go to heaven because they are living in a godly way. But this doesn't cheapen their good deeds unless they are deeds they would not otherwise perform.I think you may have a point here. While I think a fatalistic paladin could be an inspiration, this one is not. [/QUOTE]
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