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<blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 2361620" data-attributes="member: 2013"><p>IN this sense, I think the first definition of "Objectification" from dictionary.com works just fine: "To present or regard as an object."</p><p></p><p>We do not (usually) get into relationships with objects (when we do, a "personification" has developed - we treat that old car or the dearly loved teddy bear as a person with whom we have a relationship). In other words, objects are easily replaced with no remorse or emotional attachment provided the function is the same - if I need to write something down, I will pick any pen & paper provided they provide enough function (i.e., the paper is big enough to contain what I need to write and the pen lets ink flow freely). </p><p></p><p>When Person A regards Person B as an object, the relationship (in the eyes of Person A) is all about "does this person satisfy the function I desire" and nothing else - in the example at hand (women), "objectifying women" would be (to use a fark-ism) to look at a woman and say, "I'd hit it!" Any sufficiently attractive woman can easily be interchanged for the present partner because it's not about HER so much as it is about the functionality you desire - the sex.</p><p></p><p>I'd post a longer explanation because I know everyone's going to nit-pick and parse every word of this, but I don't have time. But basically, objectification boils down to, "do you care about HER" or do you only care about "what she can do for/to you?" If it's the latter, and she can easily be replaced by any other female of similar physical specifications willing to do the same things for/to you, you've objectified her. An easy example, IMO, is porn - my guess is that the appeal of the centerfolds is the titillation of the images (in which case one centerfold is as good as the next), and not in the discovery that "hey, she likes sunsets, dark chocolate, and listening to Mozart's Requiem just like I do! I wonder what I can do to make her life more enjoyable."</p><p></p><p>--The Sigil</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Sigil, post: 2361620, member: 2013"] IN this sense, I think the first definition of "Objectification" from dictionary.com works just fine: "To present or regard as an object." We do not (usually) get into relationships with objects (when we do, a "personification" has developed - we treat that old car or the dearly loved teddy bear as a person with whom we have a relationship). In other words, objects are easily replaced with no remorse or emotional attachment provided the function is the same - if I need to write something down, I will pick any pen & paper provided they provide enough function (i.e., the paper is big enough to contain what I need to write and the pen lets ink flow freely). When Person A regards Person B as an object, the relationship (in the eyes of Person A) is all about "does this person satisfy the function I desire" and nothing else - in the example at hand (women), "objectifying women" would be (to use a fark-ism) to look at a woman and say, "I'd hit it!" Any sufficiently attractive woman can easily be interchanged for the present partner because it's not about HER so much as it is about the functionality you desire - the sex. I'd post a longer explanation because I know everyone's going to nit-pick and parse every word of this, but I don't have time. But basically, objectification boils down to, "do you care about HER" or do you only care about "what she can do for/to you?" If it's the latter, and she can easily be replaced by any other female of similar physical specifications willing to do the same things for/to you, you've objectified her. An easy example, IMO, is porn - my guess is that the appeal of the centerfolds is the titillation of the images (in which case one centerfold is as good as the next), and not in the discovery that "hey, she likes sunsets, dark chocolate, and listening to Mozart's Requiem just like I do! I wonder what I can do to make her life more enjoyable." --The Sigil [/QUOTE]
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